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Topic	So how bad is this coppa thing going to be?
LinkPizza 11/24/19 7:21:14 PM #27:	ParanoidObsessive posted... LinkPizza posted... But in the end, what YouTube thinks doesn't seem to matter. All that matters is what the FTC thinks. Untrue. The problem isn't that the FTC is going to demand certain things from YouTube that YT will be forced to implement. The problem is that YouTube may (and likely will, based on prior experience) implement their own requirements which go far beyond what the FTC expects, and which will in turn be poorly managed to the point of fucking over thousands of completely innocent people. YouTube has a history of overreacting to things, in the desperate hope that large advertisers won't pull ad revenue, and then enforcing them in the worst possible way because they're lazy and inept. And every time they go through one of these little crises, a few more content providers wind up dropping off, or being forced to turn their entire channel into a Patreon-funded system, or just switching over to something like Twitch. Which is bad for content providers, but it's also bad for the people who enjoy watching those content providers. We're not quite at the point where everything is now completely fucked forever, but there's definitely the possibility that this could be an absolute catastrophe for tons of content creators who shouldn't even remotely be affected by it. It all really depends on whether YouTube is competent enough to actually define whether or not content is actually realistically for kids, and handles things in a way that isn't a complete clusterfuck (in spite of "clusterfuck" being the accurate description of most of their previous attempts to make the platform more family/advertiser friendly). From what youtube said themselves (IIRC), they will use their machine to help people place the video where they think it should go. But they then said that it would ultimately be up to you to make sure it's in the corect spot. They said you could send feedback on why it belongs in a certain place. But the way they were talking about it made it seem like they would help you, but not be responsible in the FTC decided that it was wrong. From what I saw and heard, IIRC. This was some days ago, so I could have mis-remembered it. But it seems like the FTC has the final say. And they might not agree with youtube. And if they don't, then what youtube says really doesn't matter. And I know youtube is lazy and poorly managed. Especially lately with the banning of people's whole accounts and with the way they will delete channels soon. But that makes it seem more like they wouldn't care as long as their asses are covered by shifting blame toward the content providers... Which can be hard to do if it's up to youtube to put things in the correct place... It really sucks because I like watching certain creators on youtube, but many may leave. And some will be hard to find if they are for children, since it's like they are going to basically hide those. And not being able to leave comments kind of suck, as well. You'll have to have multiple types of media to talk to certain creators... But I don't think the machine will work well because it will probably use certain parts of the video to choose, when the whole video needs to be taken into consideration... Lokarin posted... Cartoon porn: safe for kids Cartoon avatars giving mature education about science: NOT SAFE Yep! --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930644339] in So how bad... [t:78175280]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But in the end, what YouTube thinks doesn't seem to matter. All that matters is what the FTC thinks.</quote> Untrue. The problem isn't that the FTC is going to demand certain things from YouTube that YT will be forced to implement. The problem is that YouTube may (and likely will, based on prior experience) implement their own requirements which go far beyond what the FTC expects, and which will in turn be poorly managed to the point of fucking over thousands of completely innocent people. YouTube has a history of overreacting to things, in the desperate hope that large advertisers won't pull ad revenue, and then enforcing them in the worst possible way because they're lazy and inept. And every time they go through one of these little crises, a few more content providers wind up dropping off, or being forced to turn their entire channel into a Patreon-funded system, or just switching over to something like Twitch. Which is bad for content providers, but it's also bad for the people who enjoy watching those content providers. We're not quite at the point where everything is now completely fucked forever, but there's definitely the possibility that this could be an absolute catastrophe for tons of content creators who shouldn't even remotely be affected by it. It all really depends on whether YouTube is competent enough to actually define whether or not content is actually realistically for kids, and handles things in a way that isn't a complete clusterfuck (in spite of "clusterfuck" being the accurate description of most of their previous attempts to make the platform more family/advertiser friendly).</quote> From what youtube said themselves (IIRC), they will use their machine to help people place the video where they think it should go. But they then said that it would ultimately be up to you to make sure it's in the corect spot. They said you could send feedback on why it belongs in a certain place. But the way they were talking about it made it seem like they would help you, but not be responsible in the FTC decided that it was wrong. From what I saw and heard, IIRC. This was some days ago, so I could have mis-remembered it. But it seems like the FTC has the final say. And they might not agree with youtube. And if they don't, then what youtube says really doesn't matter. And I know youtube is lazy and poorly managed. Especially lately with the banning of people's whole accounts and with the way they will delete channels soon. But that makes it seem more like they wouldn't care as long as their asses are covered by shifting blame toward the content providers... Which can be hard to do if it's up to youtube to put things in the correct place... It really sucks because I like watching certain creators on youtube, but many may leave. And some will be hard to find if they are for children, since it's like they are going to basically hide those. And not being able to leave comments kind of suck, as well. You'll have to have multiple types of media to talk to certain creators... But I don't think the machine will work well because it will probably use certain parts of the video to choose, when the whole video needs to be taken into consideration... Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Cartoon porn: safe for kids Cartoon avatars giving mature education about science: NOT SAFE</quote> Yep! --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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