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divot1338 posted...

And we should just take your word for it?

I gave several examples demonstrating where they were classified in a central group based on geography.

Yours make only an argument about culture which has fuck all to do with it.

Youve also failed to address the fact its DEAD CENTER when you measure the continental United States north to south.

This is such an obviously stupid argument Im going to ignore you now.

Alright buddy, alright mister.

For starters, all boundaries and and regions are defined on a strictly arbitrary basis. Even natural boundaries like rivers are choosen for one reason or another over other rivers or lakes. The question is, what basis should our arbitrary reasoning spring from?

Natural boundaries sometimes serve that purpose, but lacking those, we usually just draw lines on a map based on who can actually enforce it, or as a compromise in a dispute. That was the case with the Mason-Dixon line which was a long, arbitrary, mostly straight line drawn across the Virginia/Maryland/Pennsylvania border. It was also later used symbolically as the line dividing the slave owner states and the free states. Now, Kentucky did not abolish slavery during the civil war, just like other Southern states, and it is in fact below the Mason-Dixon line, though that is of course just ONE random line of demarcation.

How about another random line? The latitutidinal line at 39.8283 N is the North-South centermost line in the continental U.S. Everything above that line is in the geographical "North", and everything below it is the geographical "South". Oddly enough, the northmost city in Kentucky is Fort Thomas, at... 39.0751 N. That means the state is geographically, in its entirety, in the "Southern" U.S.

Enough with lines, because it is truly about who can enforce the boundaries, right? And in that case, it would be the sovereign state that has controlled the land since at least the end of the civil war--The U.S. Government. After all, The U.S. Government gave Kentucky statehood. They gave Kentucky its name. They gave Kentucky its laws and Constitution. What do they have to say? Well, as I've already posted, the U.S. Census Bureau seems to think Kentucky is in the "South". Maybe it's not as legitimate as your sources, like "Google", a business incorporated and under the domain of the U.S., the "NCAA", a congloremate of colleges than organize amateur sports in America, where all the colleges are beholden to the U.S. for licensing and taxes, and "Logic", which you've "claimed" to have used. You're logic includes placing Kentucky in a "central" place inbetween the North-South paradigm, which is a little disconcerting because I don't think anybody recognizes a major region of America between the North and the South. It's, uh, as far as I'm aware just those two. One or the other. Unless there's a bunch of states between Maryland and Virginia I'm missing here.

But hey, maybe we're both wrong. Maybe we're missing the big picture--Who cares what governments have to say about blobs of colors on a map. What states are, you see, is the people that live in them. And what do the Southerners say about Kentucky?

That it's a Southern State. I already, uh, posted that too.

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