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TopicDo you think environment is in such a bad shape because we picked Capitalism?
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12/13/19 7:40:48 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
It's actually 12/13ths. They got llamas.

I was mostly estimating, because I couldn't remember the exact numbers. But from what I was remembering it was something like 6 species were domesticated in the Americas (including llamas), out of something like 40 or so domesticated species total. Maybe even less.



Noop_Noop posted...
That's also the reason why natives didn't have their own plagues to spread back to the Europeans.

This is definitely true. It's one of the reasons people question just how "good" a thing the Agricultural Revolution was in the first place - encouraging people to settle down actually limited the nutritional intake (meaning people were much less healthy afterwards than before), while being settled in one place is what encouraged animal domestication, which in turn is the source of most of the major diseases humans deal with on a regular basis (because most of them started as animal diseases that jumped species, and then proliferated in the new, more crowded environments of towns and cities).

The converse is, agriculture also opened the door to things like property ownership (whether you see that as a good or bad thing), but is also the source of most art, culture, and technology we've come up with since. Civilization essentially can't advance without the ability to stockpile and trade food for services.

One of the prevaling assumptions is that the only reason early humans were willing to make that trade is because agriculture also makes booze possible. So all of human history as we know it is built on the back of the fact that our ancestors 10,000 years ago just wanted to get really, really drunk.
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