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BUMPED2002 posted...

I am amazed that people aren't aware of the good that unions did early on

Pretty much everybody knows about their historical good, but we aren't in those days any more. Now unions are very different, with more of a net detriment to society especially because the largest unions are public-sector ones in fields not even close to resembling the historically dangerous ones where they helped.

BUMPED2002 posted... 8 Hour Work Day

40 Hour Work Week

...which was the work of Henry Ford rather than unions, since Ford's decision to implement it was the real turning point and prior to that unions hadn't made any real headway. In fact, a lot of things listed here are wrongly credited to unions.

More importantly, the 40 hour workweek is generally a myth anyway. A lot of hourly employees are kept under a certain number of hours to avoid paying benefits and salaried workers tend to work longer. And many fields routinely require 50-70 hours per week.

BUMPED2002 posted...

Please stop pretending labor unions did not play a role in helping American workers to attain Middle-Class status because they did.

Please stop pretending that today's unions are of any relation to those.

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