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Topic	In dating terms, when should a transgender person reveal that
Shablagoo 12/19/19 7:49:02 AM #253:	joe40001 posted... Thank you, I'm sorry if I ever twisted your words. That was not my intent. I've had concerns that you weren't arguing in good faith, perhaps they were overstated, I apologize for that too. Thanks man I don't know about the cadre of users, but "knowing some hyperbole was used" aside, I would speculate that they only respond when the topic is brought up. Sure, but theyre often the ones bringing it up in the first place. I wont try to force you to believe me, hopefully other users can either confirm or deny my claim. I think your connection between hate crimes and "the mindset" is far too tenuous. Being a person who acts violently, not a sexual preference against trans people, is the common thread when considering scenarios of violence against trans people. What you are suggesting isn't that far from saying being heterosexual is the same mindset as those who commit violence against gay people. I don't think the connection is there. Fair enough. Finally, I will skip giving an example scenario because I have some concern it will be concerned to be an argument of equivalence between groups. But I would imagine you could think of a scenario where you were attracted to a person but then upon learning something about their history or character you were no longer attracted to them. It isn't that you claimed you were attracted to them and then claimed you weren't. It was that the person you were attracted to, the person you thought they were, ended up being not who they really were. I would think that such a thing is a thing you could find to be empathetic even if you can't empathize explicitly with people for whom "being born biologically" male is a deal breaker. Its hard to really compare the situation to anything. Let me think a bit on this. I do like to think I can have empathy for them while also thinking their deal breaker may come from a place of ignorance or fear stemming from mass cultural stigma, though. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931792121] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Thank you, I'm sorry if I ever twisted your words. That was not my intent. I've had concerns that you weren't arguing in good faith, perhaps they were overstated, I apologize for that too.</quote> Thanks man <quote>I don't know about the cadre of users, but "knowing some hyperbole was used" aside, I would speculate that they only respond when the topic is brought up. </quote> Sure, but theyre often the ones bringing it up in the first place. I wont try to force you to believe me, hopefully other users can either confirm or deny my claim. <quote>I think your connection between hate crimes and "the mindset" is far too tenuous. Being a person who acts violently, not a sexual preference against trans people, is the common thread when considering scenarios of violence against trans people. What you are suggesting isn't that far from saying being heterosexual is the same mindset as those who commit violence against gay people. I don't think the connection is there.</quote> Fair enough. <quote>Finally, I will skip giving an example scenario because I have some concern it will be concerned to be an argument of equivalence between groups. But I would imagine you could think of a scenario where you were attracted to a person but then upon learning something about their history or character you were no longer attracted to them. It isn't that you claimed you were attracted to them and then claimed you weren't. It was that the person you were attracted to, the person you thought they were, ended up being not who they really were. I would think that such a thing is a thing you could find to be empathetic even if you can't empathize explicitly with people for whom "being born biologically" male is a deal breaker.</quote> Its hard to really compare the situation to anything. Let me think a bit on this. I do like to think I can have empathy for them while also thinking their deal breaker may come from a place of ignorance or fear stemming from mass cultural stigma, though. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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