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Topic	SaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Rise of Skywalker Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour 01/08/20 11:58:54 AM #430:	#2. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back The Good: One of the most intriguing aspects of Episode V is that the bad guys win and the good guys fail at almost every turn. The Rebels might win small victories here and there, but the Empire ultimately wins the battle. The Empire destroys the base at Hoth. The Millennium Falcon seems to get away from the Empire, only to find that Boba Fett tracked them to Cloud City. Luke repeatedly fails during his training sessions with Yoda and then bails out to go help Han and Leia despite Yoda's and Obi-Wan's protests. They might finally manage to escape at the very end, but at the cost of Han being frozen and Luke getting whipped by Vader, physically and mentally. This is exactly the way you handle the middle part of a trilogy. You build up the bad guys and instill doubt about the ability of the good guys to actually win to make it more satisfying in the finale when they actually do win (The sequel trilogy partly managed this but they undermined Kylo Ren a bit at the end, which I guess is fitting because he's just a wannabe Vader). I can't imagine having to wait three years to see how the original trilogy ended back in the day! The Bad: Honestly, it's difficult to find anything to criticize here because it's such a well done movie. Anything I say would feel like nitpicking. This isn't necessarily a criticism of the film itself but it does feel like George Lucas didn't plot out all the details ahead of time (or at least he changed a lot of them along the way). Luke and Leia's kiss suddenly feels really gross after Return of the Jedi reveals they're twins. They also had to do a lot of damage control in Return of the Jedi (similar to what Rise of Skywalker did for The Last Jedi, I guess...!) to explain why Obi-Wan told Luke that Vader killed his father. I also wasn't necessarily a fan of the Han/Leia romance, but eh, they made it work in the end, so whatever. The Best: The Luke/Vader lightsaber duel is so good. It doesn't have the flash and flair of other duels in the series. It's just Vader largely toying with him, with Luke occasionally showing moments of potential in the fight, culminating in Vader deciding to stop fooling around and slicing his hand off. It's just a visceral, brutal fight. Then he follows it up with the most famous spoiler in movie history (Seriously, what other contenders are there?). You don't even get modded for posting this one without warning! --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:932633657] in SaveEstell... [t:78260246]...</cite> <quote>#2. Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back The Good: One of the most intriguing aspects of Episode V is that the bad guys win and the good guys fail at almost every turn. The Rebels might win small victories here and there, but the Empire ultimately wins the battle. The Empire destroys the base at Hoth. The Millennium Falcon seems to get away from the Empire, only to find that Boba Fett tracked them to Cloud City. Luke repeatedly fails during his training sessions with Yoda and then bails out to go help Han and Leia despite Yoda's and Obi-Wan's protests. They might finally manage to escape at the very end, but at the cost of Han being frozen and Luke getting whipped by Vader, physically and mentally. This is exactly the way you handle the middle part of a trilogy. You build up the bad guys and instill doubt about the ability of the good guys to actually win to make it more satisfying in the finale when they actually do win (The sequel trilogy partly managed this but they undermined Kylo Ren a bit at the end, which I guess is fitting because he's just a wannabe Vader). I can't imagine having to wait three years to see how the original trilogy ended back in the day! The Bad: Honestly, it's difficult to find anything to criticize here because it's such a well done movie. Anything I say would feel like nitpicking. This isn't necessarily a criticism of the film itself but it does feel like George Lucas didn't plot out all the details ahead of time (or at least he changed a lot of them along the way). Luke and Leia's kiss suddenly feels really gross after Return of the Jedi reveals they're twins. They also had to do a lot of damage control in Return of the Jedi (similar to what Rise of Skywalker did for The Last Jedi, I guess...!) to explain why Obi-Wan told Luke that Vader killed his father. I also wasn't necessarily a fan of the Han/Leia romance, but eh, they made it work in the end, so whatever. The Best: The Luke/Vader lightsaber duel is so good. It doesn't have the flash and flair of other duels in the series. It's just Vader largely toying with him, with Luke occasionally showing moments of potential in the fight, culminating in Vader deciding to stop fooling around and slicing his hand off. It's just a visceral, brutal fight. Then he follows it up with the most famous spoiler in movie history (Seriously, what other contenders are there?). You don't even get modded for posting this one without warning! --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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