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TopicBernie Sanders has no friends in politics
MrMallard
02/25/20 1:12:45 AM
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tremain07 posted...
the people kinda don't really matter,tho. especially when everyone with power is gonna be backing Trump

Bernie is getting votes left, right and centre, to the point where he's winning caucuses and primaries like they're nothing. His voterbase is large and diverse, and a lot of people who were disillusioned or otherwise put off by the corporate shit show that 2016 was are mobilising this year and throwing their support behind Bernie.

You can be pessimistic about 2020 all you want, but the fact is that all that a candidate needs to become president is enough delegates, and enough votes. Hillary Clinton fucked that up by being propelled by media bias, losing a significant chunk of Bernie's voterbase in the process, and alienating the world with cheap, hollow rhetoric. 12% of potential Bernie voters are polled as voting for Trump after Hillary secured the nomination. This year, that voterbase is more active than ever, and Bernie Sanders is currently on track to get the nomination.

The second you go "it doesn't matter, other forces will bring Bernie down, it won't last forever and we'll just have another four years of Trump", you've played into the hands of Trump supporters. Look at their language over the past 6+ months - they taunt people with "four more years of Trump", never breaking from the script to the point where you might start to feel discouraged. Their rhetoric is united and strong - Donald Trump is going to get re-elected. None of the democrats are going to be able to beat Trump. He's going to be president for another four years, and there's nothing you can do about it. All it does is sow doubt, make people a bit more critical and cautious of the Democratic nomination process as it goes on.

The best way to counter blind Trumper horseshit is to get politically active, back a candidate and stand behind them. There's a reason Bernie Sanders has so much support - he's consistent, he's progressive and he's tenacious. You've already lost if you're giving into the Trumper doom and gloom now - Sanders has a massive demographic that goes across age groups and races that other candidates haven't managed to unite, and the thunder he's generating can directly challenge Trump.

You've talked about being depressed before, about not getting your hopes up about shit like this because you expect to be let down again. I understand the pessimism after 2016. But going out and saying "Bernie's doomed, even if the people want him rich people will sink him, there's no hope" only plays into the hands of Trump's supporters, and it furthers a message of hopelessness and lack of faith that warns other people to stay away. Even if you're not willing to get back on the Bernie bandwagon, understand that his sort of rhetoric only strengthens Trump's chances of re-election and the rhetoric of his followers, and further harms the chances of any candidate you might prefer.

If you hate Trump that much, dooming and glooming over his supposedly inevitable re-election only serves to make that reality more likely. If you're disillusioned, fine, but rolling over like this and ceding the next 4 years to Trump out of despair and lack of hope only serves to spread that same doubt to other people and weaken their trust in this election as well.

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