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KamikazePotato 03/09/20 1:28:05 AM #191:	Division 3, Round 4, Match 1 Grand Theft Auto V Persona 4 Golden / Red Dead Redemption https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6139-best-game-ever-day-23-round-2-grand-theft-auto-v-vs-super https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game Grand Theft Auto 5 (2015g) VS Red Dead Redemption (2015g) Grand Theft Auto 5 has a strength of 29.29. Red Dead Redemption has a strength of 24.60. Grand Theft Auto 5 wins with 58.01% of the vote! Persona 4 (2015g) VS Grand Theft Auto 5 (2015g) Persona 4 has a strength of 25.16. Grand Theft Auto 5 has a strength of 29.29. Grand Theft Auto 5 wins with 57.05% of the vote! Well, that simplifies things. We can move on to the next match, right? If you asked that question, you've clearly never experienced GTA on this site. I don't think any series has given us as many weird, headache-inducing experiences. The series is so popular everywhere else that it always FEELS like it should do well, and its entrants are always put in winnable matches, but it also drops the ball all. The. Time. GTA overperforms against stronger competition and underperforms against entrants near its level. Look at this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3728-best-of-2009-game-of-the-00s San Andreas has no business doing so well in that poll. It would easily lose to every other game in it. San Andreas lost to Golden Sun and placed last against ToS/Oblivion/God of War. GTA4 lost to Pokemon Ruby. GTA the series lost to Warcraft the series. Niko and CJ embarassed themselves. Vice City...actually has a few clutch wins, somehow, but that's about it. So to start with, let's lop about 3% off those projected results. GTA5 was facing a clearly stronger opponent and likely benefited in the final stats from Mario RPG catching a bit of a bandwagon. I also don't think it's going to be as big a deal as it was when back in 2015, when everyone was going nuts over it. It's still selling consistently but GameFAQs has a short-lived memory for western games without strong narratives. ...now, time to defeat my own argument. Persona 4 (2015g) VS GTA: Vice City (2015g) Persona 4 has a strength of 25.16. GTA: Vice City has a strength of 25.64. GTA: Vice City wins with 50.94% of the vote! GTA5 is going to be the strongest GTA game. I would be shocked if it wasn't. GameFAQs can get stuck in the past often but GTA5 was such a landmark in gaming that even we're going to respect it to a degree. It's the best-selling game of all time or close to it. I would be very surprised if GTA5 wasn't clearly a cut above the rest of the games in its series. Even with everything I said before, GTA5 starts out so far ahead of Persona 4/RDR in the stats that it has a lot of room to underperform and still win. Neither of those games would have matched that performance on SMRPG, so if the strength GTA5 showed in that match is even remotely accurate then it doesn't fall prey to the 1 Seed upset. It won't lose. It shouldn't lose. It still might, though. Because it's GTA. You shouldn't feel good about this match no matter who you pick. Expected Result GTAV > Persona 4 / RDR 53 - 47 -- Division 3, Round 4, Match 2 Xenoblade Chronicles Fire Emblem: Three Houses https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6087-best-game-ever-day-10-xenoblade-chronicles-vs-donkey-kong https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7840-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year-final-vote Fire Emblem: Awakening (2015g) VS Xenoblade Chronicles (2015g) Fire Emblem: Awakening has a strength of 22.89. Xenoblade Chronicles has a strength of 23.73. Xenoblade Chronicles wins with 51.77% of the vote! That result is very accurate, by the way. They both faced the same opponent (DKC2). Xenoblade/Three Houses is a match where you have to make some educated guesses. How much stronger than Awakening will Three Houses be? How much stronger will Xenoblade have gotten, if at all? If this were post-remake-release I easily take Xenoblade, but alas. Arguments can be made for either game here, but my take is this: Xenoblade won't be much stronger and Three Houses would easily beat that projected result against Awakening. Xenoblade may have gotten a sequel, and the series is more established than it was in 2010, but a series' growth doesn't always translate to increased strength across the board (the rise of the Persona series did absolutely nothing for Persona 3, for example) and Xenoblade 2 is a few years old regardless. In contrast, Fire Emblem has recency factor, better sales, better results, and...well, better everything. It's probably a little higher on the Nintendo hierarchy too. Xenoblade has a bit of a better reception but that's about it. Xenoblade could easily take this, and I would love if it did, but the smart money is on Three Houses. Division 4 is kind of a mess. Expected Result Three Houses > Xenoblade 52 - 48 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:935423865] in In-Depth C... [t:78438768]...</cite> <quote>Division 3, Round 4, Match 1 Grand Theft Auto V Persona 4 Golden / Red Dead Redemption https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6139-best-game-ever-day-23-round-2-grand-theft-auto-v-vs-super https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7069-whats-your-all-time-favorite-5-game Grand Theft Auto 5 (2015g) VS Red Dead Redemption (2015g) Grand Theft Auto 5 has a strength of 29.29. Red Dead Redemption has a strength of 24.60. Grand Theft Auto 5 wins with 58.01% of the vote! Persona 4 (2015g) VS Grand Theft Auto 5 (2015g) Persona 4 has a strength of 25.16. Grand Theft Auto 5 has a strength of 29.29. Grand Theft Auto 5 wins with 57.05% of the vote! Well, that simplifies things. We can move on to the next match, right? If you asked that question, you've clearly never experienced GTA on this site. I don't think any series has given us as many weird, headache-inducing experiences. The series is so popular everywhere else that it always FEELS like it should do well, and its entrants are always put in winnable matches, but it also drops the ball all. The. Time. GTA overperforms against stronger competition and underperforms against entrants near its level. Look at this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3728-best-of-2009-game-of-the-00s San Andreas has no business doing so well in that poll. It would easily lose to every other game in it. San Andreas lost to Golden Sun and placed last against ToS/Oblivion/God of War. GTA4 lost to Pokemon Ruby. GTA the series lost to Warcraft the series. Niko and CJ embarassed themselves. Vice City...actually has a few clutch wins, somehow, but that's about it. So to start with, let's lop about 3% off those projected results. GTA5 was facing a clearly stronger opponent and likely benefited in the final stats from Mario RPG catching a bit of a bandwagon. I also don't think it's going to be as big a deal as it was when back in 2015, when everyone was going nuts over it. It's still selling consistently but GameFAQs has a short-lived memory for western games without strong narratives. ...now, time to defeat my own argument. Persona 4 (2015g) VS GTA: Vice City (2015g) Persona 4 has a strength of 25.16. GTA: Vice City has a strength of 25.64. GTA: Vice City wins with 50.94% of the vote! GTA5 is going to be the strongest GTA game. I would be shocked if it wasn't. GameFAQs can get stuck in the past often but GTA5 was such a landmark in gaming that even we're going to respect it to a degree. It's the best-selling game of all time or close to it. I would be very surprised if GTA5 wasn't clearly a cut above the rest of the games in its series. Even with everything I said before, GTA5 starts out so far ahead of Persona 4/RDR in the stats that it has a lot of room to underperform and still win. Neither of those games would have matched that performance on SMRPG, so if the strength GTA5 showed in that match is even remotely accurate then it doesn't fall prey to the 1 Seed upset. It won't lose. It shouldn't lose. It still might, though. Because it's GTA. You shouldn't feel good about this match no matter who you pick. Expected Result GTAV > Persona 4 / RDR 53 - 47 -- Division 3, Round 4, Match 2 Xenoblade Chronicles Fire Emblem: Three Houses https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6087-best-game-ever-day-10-xenoblade-chronicles-vs-donkey-kong https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7840-best-of-2019-game-of-the-year-final-vote Fire Emblem: Awakening (2015g) VS Xenoblade Chronicles (2015g) Fire Emblem: Awakening has a strength of 22.89. Xenoblade Chronicles has a strength of 23.73. Xenoblade Chronicles wins with 51.77% of the vote! That result is very accurate, by the way. They both faced the same opponent (DKC2). Xenoblade/Three Houses is a match where you have to make some educated guesses. How much stronger than Awakening will Three Houses be? How much stronger will Xenoblade have gotten, if at all? If this were post-remake-release I easily take Xenoblade, but alas. Arguments can be made for either game here, but my take is this: Xenoblade won't be much stronger and Three Houses would easily beat that projected result against Awakening. Xenoblade may have gotten a sequel, and the series is more established than it was in 2010, but a series' growth doesn't always translate to increased strength across the board (the rise of the Persona series did absolutely nothing for Persona 3, for example) and Xenoblade 2 is a few years old regardless. In contrast, Fire Emblem has recency factor, better sales, better results, and...well, better everything. It's probably a little higher on the Nintendo hierarchy too. Xenoblade has a bit of a better reception but that's about it. Xenoblade could easily take this, and I would love if it did, but the smart money is on Three Houses. Division 4 is kind of a mess. Expected Result Three Houses > Xenoblade 52 - 48 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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