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Topic	Toku Thread: Godzilla, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai/Power Rangers, Ultraman, etc
IReallyDoubtIt 04/15/20 4:38:56 AM #48:	The whole magical girl genre kicked off with Cutie Honey in 1973, two years after Kamen Rider's start. And the '73 CH anime was also done by Toei. Kamen Rider Ryuki inspired Madoka, whose writer then went on to create Kamen Rider Gaim which was kind of an echo of Madoka. And Precure has regular cross promotion with Rider given that they share the same block. https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_Kamen_Rider_in_popular_culture#Pretty_Cure There's also a crossover movie coming out this year called Pretty Den-O. Frankly, it's less that Precure is toku and more that Kamen Rider/Super Sentai are magical girls. Den-O actually isn't a bad first season if you're into Precure and just anime in general. It came out in 2007 and its style was like a turning point for modern Rider. Before 2007 you had your campy Showa, tragic Black, dark Kuuga, the rest of Heisei Phase 1 swinging wildly between superhero and soap opera, and then along comes Den-O with its impeccable comedic timing and sidekicks that look like demonic pro wrestlers. The gimmick of the show is possession; the main character switches between 5+ different personalities for his forms, and the actor sells this. Every other character also sells their roles, in large part due to the obvious chemistry they all have together. The gimmick carries over to the Rider's insert song Double Action, which starts out as a banger and is redefined like 10 different, awesome ways across the series and movies. Did I mention the actor himself sings most of these alongside the character possessing him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7Qp8FoQis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02BOyI-zoM Despite its influence on the rest of the franchise though, there are reasons it could be a bad first impression of Rider. It's the closest the franchise has ever come to being slice of life, and so there is almost no plot except in the last few episodes, when the big villain finally decides to show up. What little plot there is raises a ton of questions and...well, it's a show about time travel so you know. The fights are also kind of lame, though the gimmick usually keeps things from getting outright boring. Den-O is definitely a show you watch for the atmosphere. Irony posted... Agito is a pretty good starting point or Black for an older series As someone who started with Agito, it was damn rough for me. The Riders are awesome but the story is nonsense and moves like sludge. The fights aren't even fights, they're just ways for the director to end and start episodes. TWO fight songs across 50 episodes??? And then it has the gall to introduce brand new love interests for two of the characters and then kill them both off an episode later for cheap pathos; maybe the worst treatment women have ever gotten in the toku I've seen and that bar is buried in the ground. AlisLandale posted... But those fugly potato costumes are an abomination. >_> Please don't make fun of the Level 1s, they're trying their best. --- Podcast/Audiobook Board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- View my ASCII art and others' at https://thenewhotness.info/ <cite>IReallyDoubtIt posted [p:937430957] in Toku Threa... [t:78571695]...</cite> <quote>The whole magical girl genre kicked off with Cutie Honey in 1973, two years after Kamen Rider's start. And the '73 CH anime was also done by Toei. Kamen Rider Ryuki inspired Madoka, whose writer then went on to create Kamen Rider Gaim which was kind of an echo of Madoka. And Precure has regular cross promotion with Rider given that they share the same block. https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_Kamen_Rider_in_popular_culture#Pretty_Cure There's also a crossover movie coming out this year called Pretty Den-O. Frankly, it's less that Precure is toku and more that Kamen Rider/Super Sentai are magical girls. Den-O actually isn't a bad first season if you're into Precure and just anime in general. It came out in 2007 and its style was like a turning point for modern Rider. Before 2007 you had your campy Showa, tragic Black, dark Kuuga, the rest of Heisei Phase 1 swinging wildly between superhero and soap opera, and then along comes Den-O with its impeccable comedic timing and sidekicks that look like demonic pro wrestlers. The gimmick of the show is possession; the main character switches between 5+ different personalities for his forms, and the actor sells this. Every other character also sells their roles, in large part due to the obvious chemistry they all have together. The gimmick carries over to the Rider's insert song Double Action, which starts out as a banger and is redefined like 10 different, awesome ways across the series and movies. Did I mention the actor himself sings most of these alongside the character possessing him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7Qp8FoQis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02BOyI-zoM Despite its influence on the rest of the franchise though, there are reasons it could be a bad first impression of Rider. It's the closest the franchise has ever come to being slice of life, and so there is almost no plot except in the last few episodes, when the big villain finally decides to show up. What little plot there is raises a ton of questions and...well, it's a show about time travel so you know. The fights are also kind of lame, though the gimmick usually keeps things from getting outright boring. Den-O is definitely a show you watch for the atmosphere. Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Agito is a pretty good starting point or Black for an older series</quote> As someone who started with Agito, it was damn rough for me. The Riders are awesome but the story is nonsense and moves like sludge. The fights aren't even fights, they're just ways for the director to end and start episodes. TWO fight songs across 50 episodes??? And then it has the gall to introduce brand new love interests for two of the characters and then kill them both off an episode later for cheap pathos; maybe the worst treatment women have ever gotten in the toku I've seen and that bar is buried in the ground. AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>But those fugly potato costumes are an abomination. >_></quote> Please don't make fun of the Level 1s, they're trying their best. --- Podcast/Audiobook Board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- View my ASCII art and others' at https://thenewhotness.info/</quote> ... 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