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Topic	Who do you believe will win the election? trump or biden?
Lightning Strikes 06/05/20 6:04:49 AM #47:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Biden should win Trump will win a landslide though at this rate. The radical left couldn't last another 5 months without completely shitting the bed? The overwhelming support for the violet riots happening the last few days is going to scare moderates away in droves. It doesn't really matter if people disagree with Trump's policies on healthcare/social issues/military, those topics are so abstract they don't affect the day to day life of 80% of the country. What does affect everyone's life negatively is watching cities burn to the ground, and all of these looters/rioters getting away with committing crime. At this rate I see nothing postive coming from the "protests". The minute they turned violent and started burning shit, they lost the support of most moderates. This is totally wrong. Polls show a large majority of support, and the data suggests that Trump's moves are extremely risky for him. Indeed Biden has increased his polling lead significantly since the protests began. This is mostly due to undecideds switching to Biden, with Trump's support dropping a bit as well. It is in fact the opposite of what you say - Biden's support for the protests and Trump's disastrous response have helped Biden, not Trump. At the end of the day a small minority of looters doesn't invalidate or represent the large peaceful majority, and if it did, it doesn't compare to a thousand extrajudicial murders every year. Trump isn't doing what he's doing because he believes it will help him. The strategic response (and effective) would be very cautious. He's doing it because he's finally tipped over into believing that military oppression and murder of civilians by the state is right. If the election was today, Trump would get wrecked. The issue is of course that it's not today and there is always time for things to go horribly wrong. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh Advokaiser <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:940212643] in Who do you... [t:78745235]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Biden should win Trump will win a landslide though at this rate. The radical left couldn't last another 5 months without completely shitting the bed? The overwhelming support for the violet riots happening the last few days is going to scare moderates away in droves. It doesn't really matter if people disagree with Trump's policies on healthcare/social issues/military, those topics are so abstract they don't affect the day to day life of 80% of the country. What does affect everyone's life negatively is watching cities burn to the ground, and all of these looters/rioters getting away with committing crime. At this rate I see nothing postive coming from the "protests". The minute they turned violent and started burning shit, they lost the support of most moderates.</quote> This is totally wrong. Polls show a large majority of support, and the data suggests that Trump's moves are extremely risky for him. Indeed Biden has increased his polling lead significantly since the protests began. This is mostly due to undecideds switching to Biden, with Trump's support dropping a bit as well. It is in fact the opposite of what you say - Biden's support for the protests and Trump's disastrous response have helped Biden, not Trump. At the end of the day a small minority of looters doesn't invalidate or represent the large peaceful majority, and if it did, it doesn't compare to a thousand extrajudicial murders every year. Trump isn't doing what he's doing because he believes it will help him. The strategic response (and effective) would be very cautious. He's doing it because he's finally tipped over into believing that military oppression and murder of civilians by the state is right. If the election was today, Trump would get wrecked. The issue is of course that it's not today and there is always time for things to go horribly wrong. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh Advokaiser</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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