Fuck letting the Nazis erase thousands of years of historical use for two decades of crime. They should not own all context of a word that's not even from their language, and in acting like the word "swastika" refers to Nazis by default is, in a way, letting their ideology win from the grave.
is still an emoji despite the symbol getting coopted by white supremacists. Congress still has a fasces despite the only reason most people have heard of it is from "fascism". Don't let them rewrite history. These dipshit kids putting a swastika on a pizza? Yeah, they're being edge lords. pepper pointing out there's a swastika in Zelda? He's probably just being a little stupid, so we condescendingly pretend he had an interesting point to make and move on with our lives, not "correct" him that it's not a swastika and make the problem worse.
And "what's my point" in pointing out "swastika" is a Hindu term when you said to use the local name to avoid Nazi association? Really? Fuck off. If Zelda was made in India SHINE wouldn't be able to try to avoid association by calling it a different name. He might have instead pointed out that it existed and had holy meaning before the Nazis and that it appearing in the game has nothing to do with them... which he could've and should've done in this case too. Call it a "Nazi Swastika" if context isn't clear that that that's the type being talked about. Don't make the Hindus made up a new word. It's not their fault we stole it.
As for the analogy debate, again, context matters. If you're watching SpongeBob and ask your friend what his favorite cartoons are and he rattles off shounen, he's missing the context. If you're watching Jojo and you ask the same and you get the same, it's appropriate in context. If you're showing an image from a Japanese game from developers who are not fascist shitheads or edgelords, the context probably isn't "This game was made by Nazis", so saying it isn't a swastika, it'd a manji is, again, still missing the context. If you're in a class about Operation Barbarossa and the professor draws a swastika on the board, you're missing the context of you think it's about the Navajos. If you're in a discussion about authoritarian ideology and somebody draws a swastika on their arm, you'd be right in calling them a douchebag, even if they try to "well ackshually" its other historical considerations.
Context matters.
I agree with that in principle. It would be great if we could get millions of people to disassociate the word swastika with Nazis but that seems pretty much impossible.
I see where you're coming from, but I mean considering the theme of the topic it was pretty obvious that pepper was taking a shot at Nintendo. Also, the page he posted literally calls it a manji (or the name of the level is manji), so... SHINE is not wrong in saying that
It would be hard to call it by another name in regards to Hinduism because... there's no other word to call it. That doesn't mean other cultures that do have another word for it shouldn't be able to use them. I feel bad for them but just because it's unavoidable in one context doesn't mean it should be in all other contexts too.
Context does matter, yes. The context here is some dumb kids put a Nazi symbol on a pizza, and pepper pointed out that Nintendo did the same thing. Thanks to the opening post, people's minds are already on the "Nazi swastika" so in context, it does make sense to be like that "actually this isn't the same thing"
But anyway, this is way too much discussion for a Full Throttle topic
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