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Topic	They released the George Floyd bodycam transcript
adjl 07/10/20 4:14:43 PM #186:	Joker_X_II posted... ...besides all that, the TLDR of it is, that there is going to be a part of the trial where Floyd is going to have to be held accountable for who he is, whether it's for the prosecution or the defense. There will be, but that's really only because what's-his-face's defense attorney is going to have nothing to stand on except to paint the victim as somebody who needed to die. The trial is to determine whether or not he was justified in kneeling on the dude's neck for eight minutes and most likely killing him by doing so. If not, then he is guilty of murder. Anything else brought up in the trial is purely deflection. OhhhJa posted... But a sober healthy person would've lived Man, it's almost like having different protocols for dealing with mental illness/substance abuse problems instead of relying on inadequately-trained police to resolve such situations forcefully might be an effective change that would cut down on the number of unnecessary deaths at the hands of police. I wonder if any of the BLM people have suggested reallocating funds from police to help establish such services instead of just giving the police bigger hammers to solve problems that aren't actually nails. That seems like it would be a good idea. I don't doubt that he was high. I don't doubt that being high contributed to his death. I could even be persuaded that his death could be considered inevitable given a normal police response and how the resultant anxiety would interact with his drug use. I do, however, doubt that his death couldn't have been prevented with better training and application of resources, and that is a key element of the cries to reform/defund the police. Of course, none of that has any relevance to what's-his-name's murder charges. Regardless of the exact nuance of how Floyd died, kneeling on a suspect's neck is never appropriate police conduct and was almost certainly a contributing factor in his death. That cop is a murderer, plain and simple. Pre-existing health or drug issues that made Floyd's death more likely don't change that. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:941939822] in They relea... [t:78834546]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>...besides all that, the TLDR of it is, that there is going to be a part of the trial where Floyd is going to have to be held accountable for who he is, whether it's for the prosecution or the defense.</quote> There will be, but that's really only because what's-his-face's defense attorney is going to have nothing to stand on except to paint the victim as somebody who needed to die. The trial is to determine whether or not he was justified in kneeling on the dude's neck for eight minutes and most likely killing him by doing so. If not, then he is guilty of murder. Anything else brought up in the trial is purely deflection. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>But a sober healthy person would've lived</quote> Man, it's almost like having different protocols for dealing with mental illness/substance abuse problems instead of relying on inadequately-trained police to resolve such situations forcefully might be an effective change that would cut down on the number of unnecessary deaths at the hands of police. I wonder if any of the BLM people have suggested reallocating funds from police to help establish such services instead of just giving the police bigger hammers to solve problems that aren't actually nails. That seems like it would be a good idea. I don't doubt that he was high. I don't doubt that being high contributed to his death. I could even be persuaded that his death could be considered inevitable given a normal police response and how the resultant anxiety would interact with his drug use. I do, however, doubt that his death couldn't have been prevented with better training and application of resources, and that is a key element of the cries to reform/defund the police. Of course, none of that has any relevance to what's-his-name's murder charges. Regardless of the exact nuance of how Floyd died, kneeling on a suspect's neck is never appropriate police conduct and was almost certainly a contributing factor in his death. That cop is a murderer, plain and simple. Pre-existing health or drug issues that made Floyd's death more likely don't change that. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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