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Metalsonic66 posted...

There have been a shit ton of previews talking about the basics of the story if that's what you want to know. I'm planning to go in blind in that regard though.

I'm aware. I'm also aware that I could probably get a plot summary or the like from Wikipedia.

But my point is more that I have yet to see a single commercial for the game that tells you anything meaningful about it. And whenever people are all WOMGSOHYPE! over it they literally never describe anything about the game. Basically, I haven't been given a single reason to even remotely give a shit about the game to the point where I would feel the need to go actively looking for information about it. They've done precisely nothing to make me WANT to know what it's about, so I'm mainly just apathetic about it.

It almost feels like the entire marketing campaign has been little more than "Hey look, Weebs - you can be a samurai! Okay, go preorder now."

And while 20-year old me might have been "Okay, fucking sold", 43-year old me is more like "Yawn."



Zeus posted...

What about a live-action Last Unicorn? >_>

I never really got into Last Unicorn all that much. It should theoretically fall into my wheelhouse, but it never really appealed. It might be because young me assumed unicorns were for girls and thus it was worthless, or maybe it just ever-so-slightly predated my time so I couldn't get into the more emotional parts or style, or any number of other possible reasons. But because I never had that love for it as a kid, I also lacked the nostalgia for it so it didn't do much for me as an adult, either.

I loved the shit out of Lord of the Rings, though, and that was 4 years earlier (though I obviously didn't see it on TV until years later). And I loved stuff like Labyrinth and Princess Bride, so it's hard for me to really put my finger on it.

(Tangentially, though, I will say I didn't really appreciate Ladyhawk, Dragonslayer, or Legend at the time either, so maybe I just had a certain antipathy towards certain types of fantasy. It's hard to really parse out when I'm looking backwards from 30+ years later and trying to remember how I felt about stuff, and why.)



Zeus posted...

Then there's kinda the sub-issue where SR1 only has a male character.

To be fair, they actually kind of address that in-game. The explosion at the end of the game puts you in a coma, and you required reconstructive surgery to fix everything, which justifies why you might look different than you did in SR1. Which includes gender (which seems more fluid in the Saints Row universe at the best of times).

Like most things with the Saints Row games, the real answer is "Don't think about it too hard, this shit's mostly satire anyway." Rule of Funny and Rule of Cool trump any sane and rational backstory or (see also the magical plastic surgery you can have in SR3 and SR4, where you become a perfect copy of Cyrus... or can make yourself look like a giant grape person, or a dinosaur).

But SR2 basically winks at the whole idea that you can be radically different (even a different gender, accent, etc) from the version of yourself in SR1 with the occasional "You look different. Did you change your hair?" jokes. And SR4 gets even more meta with it when you're fighting the SR1 and SR2 player models as glitches that look nothing like you because they're the default versions (something you openly mention in-character, including when the SR2 co-op player shows up).

And really, once the game lets you play as a female, you can always sort of retcon it in your own head that you were always a woman, even in the first game. The flashbacks in SR4 sort of support that idea anyway.



Zeus posted...

Of course, there's also the general issue of the fact it was *only* ever on the 360. (Granted, I own a 360 so, in theory, that's not a gamebreaker... although the 360's tendency to break games is. Plus I just don't like the 360 very much.)

360 was easily my favorite console of all time when it was current, and even today makes a very good run for being #1 in my eyes (the PS4 is definitely superior in some ways, but there are still aspects of the 360 I prefer). It would have been nice to get a 360 with the processing power and game library of the PS4 this gen - I would have bought one without hesitation.

It's a shame Microsoft decided they wanted the Xbone to be hot liquid feces instead, so I had no choice but to give up on the Xbox this go around (and will be extremely wary and likely uninterested next time around as well). Nearing the end of this gen, I've never once regretted not having the Bone (Halo might have been able to sway me, if not for the fact that 343 shit the bed so hard and now the franchise is pretty much dead to me anyway).



Zeus posted...

Speaking of, when I was watching cutscenes from SR2 (since I don't feel like getting my ps3 going), I glanced at some wikis and learned that Shaundi was VA'd by Eliza Dushku, which seemed pretty crazy considering she... oh wait, I guess her career *was* fading at that point.

Weellll. If we're going to be honest, Eliza Dushku's career was ever all that (what's the opposite of "faded"? Bright?) in the first place.

But she was recording her lines for SR2 right between Tru Calling and Dollhouse, which is probably the period where she was the most relevant she ever was, even if most nerds today would argue that she peaked with Buffy and was never that good or significant again.



Zeus posted...

I learned that NPH VA'd, of all people, Veteran Child. Kind of a small thing to do, considering that Veteran Child doesn't have that many scenes.

Keep the time period in mind. Recording/development for SR2 almost certainly predated Dr. Horrible.

At that point in time, NPH wasn't really that big. Sure, he was on How I Met Your Mother (which went a very long way towards rehabilitating him) by that point, but before that most people just (barely) remembered him as that kid who was Doogie Howser once. Even in Starship Troopers (which was mostly ignored or hated at the time anyway), the general reaction was mostly "Hey, it's Doogie Howser!" It's why he was basically a joke in Harold & Kumar.

NPH didn't really become memetically popular until Dr. Horrible made him a nerd saint. At which point I'd definitely say he swung much higher than most of the rest of the people in the game.

In SR2's time frame, I'd easily say Eliza Dushku and even Keith David were much bigger gets than NPH was. I might even be willing to argue that Jay Mohr was still more significant than him at that point (though that was right before Jay Mohr took his own dive towards obscurity). Maybe even Michael Dorn (though he was more on the downslope himself by that point, and was mostly only geek-famous even when he was popular).

The real impressive thing was that NPH was willing to come BACK to voice lines for SR4 (though Eliza Dushku either wouldn't or wasn't even asked), after his personal stock had increased.
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