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PokemonYoutube posted...

And you're defending a user who regularly advocates for the US relinquishing all former slave states to make a new nation for black people.

I think descendants of slaves should be given a choice in whether they want to build their own land or territory. Since they've never been given that choice or opportunity and were brought here against their will. Those who want to stay should be free to do so. I dont think most people see that as unreasonable. Even Native Americans have some form of sovereignty and some land. Tribal courts and independent justice systems. (Even though they deserve a lot more as well, and there are a many problems they face in America also.)

Basically Black Americans who descend from American slavery, should be given the opportunity to build a land of their own, especially since the American government and police forces continue to treat them with hostility

Dathrowed1 posted...

Swarthy, but not black. The Assyrians had tans too. Esarharddon knew the different after he conquered Egypt-Kush and pushed the Ethiopians south of the Sahara

Isaiah made the distinction as well. Jeremiah didn't ask if Egyptians could change their skin color

The Egyptians called people of those nations the "Hyskos" which means invaders from foreign lands. Most Egyptian artwork they dont show themselves as simply tan, but as Dark Brown or Black like the average African person. Mentuhotep II for example is a Black man from Waset. He was the person who started the Middle Kingdom of Egypt.

There's also a lot of common and shared cultural practices between the Egyptians and other African kingdoms and civilizations going back to Ancient times al the way to to today.

Wearing the feather of Maat is one example of a practice that some Black African tribes (Pokot Tribe) continue today. Tribes like the Beja also continue Egyptian tradition by using cowfat in their hair to style that's another example. And the clothing styles and other artifacts show similarities as well. The use of Egyptian style headrests are also shown all over Africa.

https://youtu.be/oL_KS6pQxe4

This video shows some other anthropological and cultural comparisons

ThyCorndog posted...

some ancient egyptians were black but the majority were north african/middle eastern. its very possible the first egyptians in upper egypt were black, but by the time they united with lower egypt they would have become mixed and mostly middle eastern in origin. there's a reason why modern egyptians fit the closest genetic match to ancient egyptians, and not sudanese or ethiopians or other black groups in the area

The DNA test you're referencing came from a small area in Fayoum within a small period of time late in Egypts history (New Kingdom to Roman Era). It's like taking a sample of a single ethnic neighborhood in America and using it as a representative of the entire USA. In this case it's using subjects from a small region in a period of time where invasion and migration was common and using it to represent a 3000+ year old civilization that had been for existence for millennia prior. If you did that even within the USA you'll get an inaccurate picture of what the country is like.

When you widen the sample size and choose mummies of different time periods, especially older time periods. Ands ones from further south, you get more DNA of Black African origin in the results