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Topic	I think I might try to watch Avatar: The Last Airbender
Veedrock- 01/05/21 6:43:57 AM #95:	Zeus posted... A) We've had MULTIPLE long-running franchises with continuity. In fact, the entire MCU disproves your theory. B) We've seen movies filmed simultaneously. All of this has been done. A) The MCU is not a single story, it's not comparable. Continuity is fine, multiple films is fine, but stretching out a single narrative for the sake of it is a recipe for disaster. B) You're not addressing me at all with this. Simultaneous filming is not the secret to success, it's not a guarantee that the films ever even get released. And examples of simultaneous filming last at longest three movies (Lord of the Rings), not a whopping nine. Zeus posted... No, each season needs multiples because you're cramming 13 hours down to 90 minutes. You're exaggerating hard in both directions here to suit your argument. 90 minutes the low end of movie length, I didn't know you were lobbying for TV movies here. Average theatrical film length is over two hours and it's not unheard of to go to 3 hours. If you need the runtime then use it, we don't need two movies for the sake of two. And where in the world is this 13 hour figure coming from? Even if each episode was a full 30 minutes that'd be 10 hours, but episodes are only about 22 minutes so that's 7:20 per season. Cutting that down to 2-3 hours is not impossible, especially after you cut off all the fat that comes with filling TV runtime. Or are you really gonna argue that we just can't have an avatar film without The Great Divide? Zeus posted... The HP books could have been done as multiple movies and got away with it. Hard disagree, audiences would've given up on the movies before long and they'd stop being made, leaving us with a lot of unrealized material. And Harry Potter didn't have another visual medium outside of the book, so people were more invested in the films. With ATLA if viewers don't like the movie or don't want to wait for such a long release schedule, they can watch the cartoon and get the exact same (or better) experience. Disney has been criticized for their live action remakes for this exact reason, the movies themselves are mostly fine but there's little merit to them when they are just copies of the originals. Zeus posted... So basically even that had to go with multiple movies because you could only condense so much? And that was Gundam, which tends to have a tighter running storyline as opposed to the more episodic Avatar. Wtf. Ok at no point did I state all of ATLA needed to fit in one film, so this "aha gundam got three" isn't even an aha. And a tighter storyline actually works the opposite the way you think it does, as it means there's less filler that can be done without. Avatar's episodic structure added a lot of fluff and villain-of-the-week stuff that can be cut from a theatrical remake. There's no reason at all every episode in it's entirety needs covered. Zeus posted... How about The Last Airbender? >_> I thought it went without saying that we're listing examples besides that, as it had issues well beyond the condensed story. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:949122164] in I think I ... [t:79198705]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>A) We've had MULTIPLE long-running franchises with continuity. In fact, the entire MCU disproves your theory. B) We've seen movies filmed simultaneously. All of this has been done.</quote>A) The MCU is not a single story, it's not comparable. Continuity is fine, multiple films is fine, but stretching out a single narrative for the sake of it is a recipe for disaster. B) You're not addressing me at all with this. Simultaneous filming is not the secret to success, it's not a guarantee that the films ever even get released. And examples of simultaneous filming last at longest three movies (Lord of the Rings), not a whopping nine. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>No, each season needs multiples because you're cramming 13 hours down to 90 minutes.</quote>You're exaggerating hard in both directions here to suit your argument. 90 minutes the low end of movie length, I didn't know you were lobbying for TV movies here. Average theatrical film length is over two hours and it's not unheard of to go to 3 hours. If you need the runtime then use it, we don't need two movies for the sake of two. And where in the world is this 13 hour figure coming from? Even if each episode was a full 30 minutes that'd be 10 hours, but episodes are only about 22 minutes so that's 7:20 per season. Cutting that down to 2-3 hours is not impossible, especially after you cut off all the fat that comes with filling TV runtime. Or are you really gonna argue that we just can't have an avatar film without The Great Divide? Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>The HP books could have been done as multiple movies and got away with it.</quote>Hard disagree, audiences would've given up on the movies before long and they'd stop being made, leaving us with a lot of unrealized material. And Harry Potter didn't have another visual medium outside of the book, so people were more invested in the films. With ATLA if viewers don't like the movie or don't want to wait for such a long release schedule, they can watch the cartoon and get the exact same (or better) experience. Disney has been criticized for their live action remakes for this exact reason, the movies themselves are mostly fine but there's little merit to them when they are just copies of the originals. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>So basically even that had to go with multiple movies because you could only condense so much? And that was Gundam, which tends to have a tighter running storyline as opposed to the more episodic Avatar.</quote>Wtf. Ok at no point did I state all of ATLA needed to fit in one film, so this "aha gundam got three" isn't even an aha. And a tighter storyline actually works the opposite the way you think it does, as it means there's less filler that can be done without. Avatar's episodic structure added a lot of fluff and villain-of-the-week stuff that can be cut from a theatrical remake. There's no reason at all every episode in it's entirety needs covered. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>How about The Last Airbender? >_></quote>I thought it went without saying that we're listing examples besides that, as it had issues well beyond the condensed story. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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