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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1365
ctesjbuvf
01/11/21 6:39:55 AM
#182:


You cannot simply say Zelda > Smash and be done with it, that does not apply to any matchup between the two and not on any console. Same goes for Zelda > Mario and Smash > Mario.

Ocarina of Time has clearly been stronger than anything Smash always and it not prevent Brawl and Melee from beating the Zelda games on their consoles the next contest. Melee did it twice and with Brawl beating TP 1v1 the year after, I suppose that's twice too.

Wind Waker has absolutely no reason to turn that order around by getting... a Wii U remake, while Melee only rose in relevance since, though on our side it probably matters little what happened to them since.

Breath of the Wild trashing ultimate means nothing in this argument, it's not Wind Waker. Ultimate thrashed another Zelda game on its way there, so yeah it's ultimately Zelda games, but Smash has beat Zelda plenty of times.

Finally, don't let Ultimate's inability to put up the same ridiculous numbers on its opponents as the other top games fool you, it will still win the matches it's supposed to, it just doesn't have the same respect going for it in a contest named Game of the Decade (a title Smash really has no claim to anywhere, but came much closer to here). We're not over Smash, the opposite was always a bold statement right on top of a contest that was dominated by characters in Smash even in low tier matches. People used that argument to pick Odyssey above it and Smash effortlessly blew past it.

I think the only instance you could argue for Wind Waker > Melee would be in a contest where somehow Wind Waker was the strongest Zelda game and even then, it's a huge stretch, it still took Brawl > Melee backlash to barely push Majora's Mask to victory. That contest obviously never happens though, so it's a moot point.

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