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Topic	When will we admit to ourselves that capitalism is a shitty economic system?
ssjevot 02/04/21 2:42:01 AM #67:	fuming posted... The problem is pretty much that it's hard to figure out a way to have a true socialist economy without your country being overthrown by the forces of capital, leading to people using authoritarian governments with powerful militaries to not only deter invasion, but to deter coup attempts internally fomented by global capital. And then having an authoritarian government leads to your country being unable to fulfill your goals of being a truly socialist country because authority is against the spirit of the cause. The first part of your post is basically accepting tanky propaganda as factual. Authoritarianism was the goal from the start and remains the goal under these regimes. The idea of the benevolent dictator is preposterous. If authoritarianism is the only way to defend yourself why are many of the strongest militaries in the world under liberal democracies? And why do those authoritarian states fall anyway and never implement socialism? Why don't communes that have come close to or possibly even succeeded at implementing socialism not get overthrown when they have no military? Tankies do not want or care about socialism, it is a means to an end, just like fascists will talk a bunch of bullshit platitudes to gain power or basically any other group that wants power. Anyone who tells you to give up your freedom for some abstract promise or platitude is clearly not looking out for your interests. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:950261729] in When will ... [t:79276813]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>The problem is pretty much that it's hard to figure out a way to have a true socialist economy without your country being overthrown by the forces of capital, leading to people using authoritarian governments with powerful militaries to not only deter invasion, but to deter coup attempts internally fomented by global capital. And then having an authoritarian government leads to your country being unable to fulfill your goals of being a truly socialist country because authority is against the spirit of the cause.</quote> The first part of your post is basically accepting tanky propaganda as factual. Authoritarianism was the goal from the start and remains the goal under these regimes. The idea of the benevolent dictator is preposterous. If authoritarianism is the only way to defend yourself why are many of the strongest militaries in the world under liberal democracies? And why do those authoritarian states fall anyway and never implement socialism? Why don't communes that have come close to or possibly even succeeded at implementing socialism not get overthrown when they have no military? Tankies do not want or care about socialism, it is a means to an end, just like fascists will talk a bunch of bullshit platitudes to gain power or basically any other group that wants power. Anyone who tells you to give up your freedom for some abstract promise or platitude is clearly not looking out for your interests. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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