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Inviso 02/04/21 1:56:09 PM #179:	BetrayedTangy Its no secret Iron Man 2 isnt exactly a good movie, but Ill let everyone else shit on it; because I for one love this movie! Theres so many memorable scenes and characters I dont even know where to begin. I think the one thing everyone agrees on is how great Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer is. Hes a riot every time hes on screen, I would love to see him come back for a cameo someday. Then we have Mickey Rourke pretending to be a Russian scientist? Yeah its pretty awful, but hes still good for a laugh especially in the scenes he has with Hammer. Rhodey, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Happy and Gary Shandlings character (RIP) are all a lot of fun throughout too. Despite the amount of fun I have watching this movie, I really cant justify putting it any higher. Eddv Average, but fuck off RDJ Mr Crispy Iron Man 2 had a terrible reputation. But it actually improved a lot upon actually rewatching it. I believe the main complaints (other than simply being worse than the first one) were that it was more of the same and the last fight with Whiplash was pretty disappointing after all the buildup to it. Disappointing final fights with the villains has since proven the par for the course for most of the MCU. "More of the same" isn't necessarily a bad thing, since a lot of MCU sequels try to up the stakes or go in a different direction only to fumble hard (or end up just feeling like going through the motions doing the bare minimum to set up plot points in future films). Tony worrying about his own mortality and what sort of legacy he leaves behind (and coming to terms with his father's death) fits in pretty well with his character arc across all the movies, it just falls a little short. In the past Tony felt like his father neglected him in favor of work and such before he died, so he tries to avoid becoming like his father by acting like Tony Stark. In Iron Man 2, Tony gets tired of acting like Tony Stark and tries to open up and be more genuine with Pepper and his other friends in order to make good use of the time he has left. But they just dismiss it as Tony being Tony Stark. So Tony feels he has to be more Tony Stark than Tony Stark (driving away more people), until the cycle gets broken by beginning to come to terms with his father. It's just not quite there to make it work all that well. Speaking of being Tony Stark, Hammer being some dollar store knockoff of the Tony Stark brand that thinks he's more awesome than the original Tony Stark and annoys everyone because he feels the need to prove it/has to tell everyone about it is actually kind of entertaining too. Iron Man 2 is more of a movie that's not quite good than one that's bad. (Or maybe, other MCU movies ended up having more severe flaws so it looks better by comparison) Snake5555555555 A product of MCU growing pains, clunkily setting up the blueprint for Avengers by introducing Black Widow in some out-of-place fan-service shots, recasts Rhodey and introduces War Machine, and shoves in stuff like Caps shield and expanded SHIELD presence to help drive in this idea of an extended universe. Its not always the most organic but hell does RDJ sell it all anyway. It was a film almost doomed to fail: too many heroes, too many villains, all coming in too fast, too furious, but through it all Iron Man 2 still manages to craft some compelling action of it all, finding the jewel in the junkyard. I think this film has some really iconic shots too, like Tony in the donut or Whiplash on the racetrack, it kind of makes me nostalgic for that time again when things were a bit simpler. Im torn between liking this film and seeing its many flaws, but overall Id say its more good than bad despite some major missteps. Corrik7 If you took RDJ out, this wouldn't be really amazing movie. The Iron Man series leans hard on RDJ to carry it throughout. The armor is cool. It gets even cooler. However, the one problem with Iron Man has always been how much is he really even a superhero? Could anyone just pilot his suit and be him? And, you do see a lot of different characters pop up with suits over the Marvel Comics. This movie is alright. It is that great though either. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950275793] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy Its no secret Iron Man 2 isnt exactly a good movie, but Ill let everyone else shit on it; because I for one love this movie! Theres so many memorable scenes and characters I dont even know where to begin. I think the one thing everyone agrees on is how great Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer is. Hes a riot every time hes on screen, I would love to see him come back for a cameo someday. Then we have Mickey Rourke pretending to be a Russian scientist? Yeah its pretty awful, but hes still good for a laugh especially in the scenes he has with Hammer. Rhodey, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Happy and Gary Shandlings character (RIP) are all a lot of fun throughout too. Despite the amount of fun I have watching this movie, I really cant justify putting it any higher. Eddv Average, but fuck off RDJ Mr Crispy Iron Man 2 had a terrible reputation. But it actually improved a lot upon actually rewatching it. I believe the main complaints (other than simply being worse than the first one) were that it was more of the same and the last fight with Whiplash was pretty disappointing after all the buildup to it. Disappointing final fights with the villains has since proven the par for the course for most of the MCU. "More of the same" isn't necessarily a bad thing, since a lot of MCU sequels try to up the stakes or go in a different direction only to fumble hard (or end up just feeling like going through the motions doing the bare minimum to set up plot points in future films). Tony worrying about his own mortality and what sort of legacy he leaves behind (and coming to terms with his father's death) fits in pretty well with his character arc across all the movies, it just falls a little short. In the past Tony felt like his father neglected him in favor of work and such before he died, so he tries to avoid becoming like his father by acting like Tony Stark. In Iron Man 2, Tony gets tired of acting like Tony Stark and tries to open up and be more genuine with Pepper and his other friends in order to make good use of the time he has left. But they just dismiss it as Tony being Tony Stark. So Tony feels he has to be more Tony Stark than Tony Stark (driving away more people), until the cycle gets broken by beginning to come to terms with his father. It's just not quite there to make it work all that well. Speaking of being Tony Stark, Hammer being some dollar store knockoff of the Tony Stark brand that thinks he's more awesome than the original Tony Stark and annoys everyone because he feels the need to prove it/has to tell everyone about it is actually kind of entertaining too. Iron Man 2 is more of a movie that's not quite good than one that's bad. (Or maybe, other MCU movies ended up having more severe flaws so it looks better by comparison) Snake5555555555 A product of MCU growing pains, clunkily setting up the blueprint for Avengers by introducing Black Widow in some out-of-place fan-service shots, recasts Rhodey and introduces War Machine, and shoves in stuff like Caps shield and expanded SHIELD presence to help drive in this idea of an extended universe. Its not always the most organic but hell does RDJ sell it all anyway. It was a film almost doomed to fail: too many heroes, too many villains, all coming in too fast, too furious, but through it all Iron Man 2 still manages to craft some compelling action of it all, finding the jewel in the junkyard. I think this film has some really iconic shots too, like Tony in the donut or Whiplash on the racetrack, it kind of makes me nostalgic for that time again when things were a bit simpler. Im torn between liking this film and seeing its many flaws, but overall Id say its more good than bad despite some major missteps. Corrik7 If you took RDJ out, this wouldn't be really amazing movie. The Iron Man series leans hard on RDJ to carry it throughout. The armor is cool. It gets even cooler. However, the one problem with Iron Man has always been how much is he really even a superhero? Could anyone just pilot his suit and be him? And, you do see a lot of different characters pop up with suits over the Marvel Comics. This movie is alright. It is that great though either. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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