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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE 1)
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02/07/21 1:11:28 PM
#322:


Whiskey Nick
(No write-up.)

NBIceman
Look, I understand why people dont like this one, I really do. Ultron is too jokey and nonthreatening. Hulk/Widow is terrible and completely without chemistry. Wandas accent is terrible. The pacing is pretty bad. And hey, I never took a film class at college (to what Im sure is the collective shock of everyone reading), but even I can tell theres a lot of weird editing going on in it. But Ive gotta say With the exception of Hulk/Widow, which is just indefensibly bad, none of that bothers me too much. Im a lot more forgiving of Joss Whedons worse tendencies because I tend to think his creations have enough good stuff that it far outweighs the bad, and AoU is no exception. I always forget just how many enjoyable parts it has until I rewatch it. Theres a ton of Hawkeye, who I love. Its the only film in the franchise where all of the Avengers just take a little time to hang out with each other, and those moments are a lot of fun. Hulk vs Hulkbuster is a really cool fight. And yeah, there may be too many jokes, but I dont mind that when most of them are still pretty funny. Its even got the best mid-/post-credits scene. All said, theres some movies lower on my ranking that just straight-up dont connect with me, where this one straight-up does. Its not a top-tier Marvel offering by any means, but I do think its way over-hated.

Corrik7
The beginning scene was cool. A lot of the debate among each other was interesting. The hint that Captain America could lift the Hammer that paid off in the end was awesome. Scarlet Witch was a welcome addition, though the Vision kind of ended up being a let down. Tony Stark's hubris creating the villain was needed in the universe to set him into check and this led to the angle that many other movies would feed off of. Ultron himself wasn't as strong as I expected and his robots seemed more like gimmicks at times than credible threats. A good movie though.

Cybat
I have always been a sucker for the big team-up episode, which is one of the reasons I got into comics in the first place. So even though this movie clearly has a lot of problems, especially when compared to the other three Avengers movies, I still enjoy it quite a bit. The long shot during the climax of all of the Avengers battling Ultron bots together is possibly the most comic-book-y thing in the franchise. Also, this movie does contain one of my favorite scenes in the whole franchise, which is the afterparty scene where all of the Avengers just hang out, make jokes, play with Mjolnir, and bond. We really need more scenes like this especially now that a new team of Avengers is coalescing.
But I would be remiss if I didnt mention some stuff that does not work at all. James Spader was a great choice for Ultron but the disconnect between his tone in the trailers and in the actual movie was jarring, and made him seem pretty unthreatening. Thors bath of foreshadowing was really weird and out of nowhere. And man, does the Bruce/Natasha relationship not work at all.
One last thing I will mention is that this movie is actually a huge turning point for the universe; a large number of things that happen after this can be traced back to some event in this movie. The ramifications of Starks arrogance and Sokovias destruction are still being felt today.

Johnbobb
Ultron is better than people give it credit for! James Spader is good! The pacing is weird. Paul Bettany kills it! Hulk/Widow is weird and bad. Vision just casually lifting Mjolnr like it's a fucking baton is one of the best scenes in the entire MCU hands down.

Red13n
This is the movie that has grown on me over time. I think it got a lot of flak because people wanted something more out of phase 2, some sort of epic conclusion. At this point, we knew phase 3 was going to be a thing, we even had a small idea of where it was going to go. Age of Ultron didn't feel like it was leading to this, but now that its had some time to digest, this movie really set a lot of the groundwork for future films, and I've come to appreciate a lot of the foresight they had in how it played out. We get Tony's obsession with protecting the world from threats they cant imagine, but also having to deal directly with his own failure. We begin to see the costs to the world the avengers bring, an escalation in power of opposing forces("Enhanced" is a term they seem already familiar with), and a world that doesn't see the Avengers quite as the heroes the audience sees at the time. While Ultron doesn't necessarily feel like he brought the highest stakes we might have expected from a team-up film, and I think alone its not the strongest of movies, I really appreciate how much of this film ended up mattering to the MCU as a whole.

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