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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE 1)
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02/07/21 1:12:09 PM
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Sheep007
I think this is around the point in my list where I actively start enjoying these movies. Theres three clear tiers, with my top three being above all the rest, and everything above this in that entertaining film with a fair amount of great stuff in tier. So, yeah, I actually enjoy Age of Ultron. Ive heard a lot of criticism about this movie, but I kinda like it. Its messy in places, sure. I dont have a clue what Thors doing for most of it, but we already established I hate him and always will (please tell me that the Thor movies placed below this? They did, right?) so Im just happier with him out of the way. The first act of this is really strong: I like the start sequence, I like it whenever the nightmares come in, just because Im a sucker for those sorts of scenes, and I love Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. That may be in part because Elizabeth Olsen is the most attractive main actor (Sorry, Mr Hiddlestone) in the whole MCU and puts a cute accent on top, but thats beside the point. These new powers are cooler and have more creative potential than everything introduced nefore, and I find mystical powers more interesting than the techy ones which most of the Avengers up to this point have. I also find Vision as a concept interesting, and Ill always enjoy Tony fucking up and having to do something to fix it. Furthermore, it manages to develop some of the background Avengers more: Clint becomes a lot more interesting in this movie and I love his dynamic with Wanda, while even though the Natasha/Bruce romance doesnt quite sell me, its a decent idea. The Mjolnir/party scene is really good too, it shows the entire group just pissing around, which is always going to be great with so much acting talent available. I wish there were more scenes like that, and it manages to add more character and worldbuilding than some entire movies do *cough* Ant-Man 2 *cough*. The pacing, however, is dreadful, Ultron is a mediocre villain (or rather a good idea with not-great execution) and the humour is a little toooo Marvelly/quippy for me to warm to, but I think other people have probably addressed all that, so Ill stick to mostly praise.

XIII Rocks
I feel like Avengers movies are kind of better by default to me, because I like almost all the characters involved and here there's simply...more of them and they're all handled pretty well here. I don't even take major umbrage with the Hulk/Widow subplot - I thought the chemistry between them was demonstrated in the first movie and it felt a natural continuation. Take my past love of the characters out of it and this movie hurtles downward, but it's still great seeing all these different characters on screen and interacting (the Iron Man/Cap chopping wood scene, for instance). That thrill still wasn't lost in the sequel, especially the scene where they all try to lift the hammer, even though it badly needed refreshing with new blood after this (and it was). I like the relative complexity of Ultron, Spader's performance, and the way he becomes a dark mirror of Stark, though a lot of that is more of an excuse to give the Avengers an actual chance to beat him (such as him waiting in Sokovia for them to arrive before enacting his plan). I originally thought it was silly to have Stark be responsible for Ultron but in hindsight this was a good call; the way this plays into his larger character arc from IM1 to Endgame was perfect. I like the scale of the action and some of the team moves and shots. And I like the way they used Hulkbuster.

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