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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE 1)
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02/07/21 1:12:32 PM
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PrinceKaro
So Tony ends up in a frenzy fueled by what can only be described as a combination of a god complex and fascism where he derides to a create AI life from alien tech with the intent of creating an army of robots to enforce their will on mankind. Might as well just make him go full supervillain at this point.
The design of our metallic adversary is already a big stumbling point, he looks like some rejected micheal bay transformer that doesnt at all fit the character's personality. He's got this advanced and very disturbing mouth for no apparent reason other than it seems Ultron's primary concern was being able to orally pleasure a USB port.
The movie then takes the predicable skynet route until it goes completely off the rails in the final act, culminating in the most idiotic feat in the whole MCU. This is the scene where Thor throws a woman up to the floating island from a great distance while falling downward a full speed. Lets assume that Thor is absurdly strong enough to chuck this girl a good thousand feet upward with nothing to brace against (he isn't, or at least the MCU version isn't), the force would fucking kill a human being.
The big redeeming feature of this movie is the introduction of Scarlet Witch, the MCU is in great need of more female superheroes in general, and in very great need of those who aren't just generic kickass warrior women.
This was fortuitous, considering how this movie utterly ruined the character of Black Widow for the rest of her stay in the MCU. Yeah, let's make our sexy covert superspy suddenly get all emo that she cant be a mommy because oh no I can't use my vagina to make babies my life is incomplete and I'm a monster!
As problematic as this was, disney's response was to cower to the social media lynch mob and in every upcoming movie strip her of personality entirely and make her as boring as Hawkeye. And that, my friends, is pretty fucking boring.

CoolCly
I think this movie gets too much hate. I guess if you hate Ultron and/or hate Joss Whedons style of dialogue, theres no way you could like that movie, but I dont live in that world
I love Ultron. As soon as the there are no strings on me trailer came out, I was in love. This, and the RedLetterMedia video Ultron California, are works of art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-_230SjbM
Ultron just works so well as a reflection of Tony Stark. Clearly youve never made an omelette.
I love the Scarlett Witch in general and I like her here. Quicksilver is good too, but their origin is a little shoddy. Baron von Struckers plans just dont make any sense. The post credit scene that introduced them implied he had some machinations and its just all swept under the rug a victim of this movies packed nature.
Thats definitely a problem with this movie. Theres too much. Thors vision quest goes nowhere. It all weighs down the movie.
But even though theres too much its pretty much all awesome.
The party at the beginning, Jarvis interacting with Ultron, the farm and Fury, creating the Vision, the floating Sokovia island. Quicksilver trying to step up in being a good guy. Hawkeyes speech to the Scarlet Witch is one of the best moments in the MCU. I love all this stuff.
I think the movie is done a REAL disservice by stealing Ultrons good body for Vision I like the giant robot army for everyone to fight, but not having a main body that can beat down the Avengers is a big loss for the movie. The robot army feels like paper and Ultron Prime wasnt much stronger. I think a stronger Ultron would have made the climax more impactful.
Overall, this is a good movie. But the way its so packed holds it back, and maybe it was a little to focused on humour. I wish there was a stronger Ultron.

Eddv
Only thing I care about less than Tony Stark is his fucking armor.

VengefulKaelee
Ultron is definitely the star of the show here, and James Spader's charisma completely carries the movie. Also appreciated is the actual characterization of Hawkeye, and the scenes towards the beginning where the Avengers were just hanging out and being themselves (in particular the scene where everyone's drunkenly trying to lift Thor's hammer is low-key one of my favorite MCU scenes). There are too many mindless action scenes for this to be anything great overall, but it's still an engaging, if not spectacular, comic book movie.

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