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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
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02/11/21 9:04:20 AM
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HanOfTheNekos
Alright, so... the movie was a little rough to start. It felt pretty clear throughout that it was a film where the directing didn't always match with the writing. But it wasn't done that poorly. Most of the bad moments were paced out far enough with good inbetween, so it didn't ruin the movie like Iron Man 2's bad moments did.

It was an interesting take on Pym, but once again, better than having abusive jerkface Pym. I kinda like old, badfather Pym. Hope was solid too... like most things with this movie, the first act really didn't sell me on her, but as things got developed, her character was shown to be well-written and pretty badass. Way better than Iron Man 2's Black Widow.

Darren Cross aka Yellowjacket... was kinda boring. He wasn't bad. The guy was a jerk. Seemed to fittingly be a Hank Pym that DID become an asshole. Seems a little dumb that they said the whole "particles mess with brain chemistry" as a way to explain him turning evil. Why not just have him be evil? He was obsessed with proving himself to be better than Pym... just elaborate on that goal and obsession and show how it forces him to sacrifice his own humanity. I mean, he just flat out killed a guy in the beginning. He was clearly an ass. Particles my ass.

Paul Rudd, as himself, was a pretty good character too. I mean, thief with a heart of gold is a tiring trope, but it's easy to ignore that and just focus on him being himself. My suspension of disbelief was ruined, however, by them featuring Paul Rudd as a featured character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. What are they going to do next, have John McCain get to be the Rhino in the next Spiderman movie?

Get it? Because RINO?

Anyway, I enjoyed this movie more than I expected to. It was rough, but at its core it had a lot of great elements. Even if the story and writing wasn't the best, the spectacle of effects, exploring the small world, ants, etc... were all very worth seeing.

CoolCly
Paul Rudd is the bomb and Luis phenomenal. Michael Douglas is really good in the mentor role as the former Ant-Man. Hope is a good love interest, shes no Peggy Carter but above average in the MCU and seemed ready to go to be the hero herself all along.
I actually like Darren Cross his complex of trying to chase the genius and legacy of Hank Pym and prove himself, both as a scientist and as a pupil, is real valid for what hes been doing. Hes done a REAL disservice by the writing though by making some bullshit statements about how the Pym particles will drive someone insane. So he does things like kill people with no remorse I think they should have just kept him to realistic villainy driven by his actual motivations relating to Pym and just not being a very good guy.
The usage of Ant-Mans abilities are real fun and the actual Ants are surprisingly well executed. Naming the ants was great and I felt shocked when Antony was shot.
Langs relationship with his family is great too its clear he loves his daughter and wants to be there. His ex wife and the step dad are cold to Scott but out of genuine concern for his effect on Cassie, not in an unrealistic way. It all feels good.
Overall this is a good movie! Theres not really any major downsides but it feels like it just doesnt go far enough to be a great movie. This is just a good place to be for lower tier entries in the MCU, they cant all be home runs.

Eddv
Another movie that exists. A star vehicle for the aging husk of the once funny Paul Rudd. At least it wasn't an Adam Sandler film.

MetalDK
Meh

XIII Rocks
It's good. It's fine. Paul Rudd does a perfectly good job and it's a nice change of pace in the MCU from the big world-ending disaster stuff. Its release being just a few months after Age of Ultron was a really good idea actually; it's kind of a palate-cleanser or whatever phrase you want to use. Always nice to see Evangeline Lily doing stuff too. The problem here is the wasted potential of it not being an Edgar Wright thing. That would have been so awesome and I couldn't help but feel it became a lot less stylish and individual once he was gone. I wonder if post-Taika they'd reconsider it a bit and let Wright have his way a bit more.

Snake5555555555
The problem with the Ant-Man films is that theyre easy to forget as soon as theyre over. With their exhausted tropes and villains from the Iron Man reject junk-pile, Ant-Man hobbles along on its admittedly charming supporting cast while trying to build serious moments around its man-child protagonist as the film yawns business-like towards invetible conclusions. Ant-Man is forced up against wider MCU characters and it treats quantum mechanics like a checklist youve basically seen in any other character goes small movie ever. Ant-Man has so much more potential than this and I really wish it was capitalized more on.

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