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Topic	Board 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
Inviso 02/13/21 2:12:28 PM #139:	Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Tony Stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps! When looking at the modern history of superhero films, discussions often talk about how both Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out in the same year, two movies about genius billionaire playboy philanthropists donning suits of gadget wizardry to fight against terror. Perhaps more important is discussing the movies surrounding these two movies at the time: X-Men: The Last Stand, Spider-Man 3, Superman Returns, Hancock, Ghost Rider. Superhero movies were on the downswing, and with X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Green Lantern bombing soon and Kick-Ass and Watchmen going for 'adults-only,' the late 2000s seemed to be heralding the end of the superhero blockbuster. It's absolutely a wonder how Iron Man managed to work so well. Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Hulk, and other high-profile Marvel properties were good at best, but weren't able to sustain any momentum going forward. Costumes looked goofy, casting was awkward, stories didn't work well. They were popcorn flicks, vehicles designed less to feature the comic book character, but the hot Hollywood actors and music industry soundtracks of the time, at least in the case of Daredevil, a movie which I actually enjoy despite all its many flaws. Perhaps, it's Daredevil's faults that led to director Jon Favreau's tighter work on Iron Man, able to see what went wrong with production and corporate heads and bring a tighter rein of focus and control at making a solid effort. From the lesser-valued casting, the focus on character and story driving the action rather than action for the sake of action, and just a great feel of care. Robert Downey Jr. is incredible. He brings to life a character who had been stagnant on paper for decades and turns Tony Stark into a living, breathing person with ambitions, flaws, motives, relationships, cares, worries, a past, a future, and most importantly a voice. You learn very quickly who the man is and how he operates. He's an engineer of war and proud of it until he's subjected to the horrors of what he's wrought and spends the rest of not only the movie, but the rest of the MCU atoning for his mistakes (whilst making more mistakes to atone for). He thinks he alone can change everything for the better, one man in a suit of armor and an artificial heart and unlimited wealth with a dream for a brighter future. It works in this movie. The suit is still some of the most incredible CG put to film, holding up better than a lot of special effects done since. Downey, Howard, Paltrow, Bettany, Favreau, and Bridges all make wonderfully real characters. The surprise appearance of Ultimate Nick Fury at the very end, a character deliberately modeled after Samuel L. Jackson, being played by Samuel L. Jackson was a jaw-dropping moment. And we had the introduction of the ever-wonderful Agent Coulson. I'm certain there's so much more that needs to be said, but as a foundation for the MCU, it is incredibly strong. As a standalone movie, it's almost even better. Raka Putra Ah yes, the original. It was no wonder it was successful enough to kickstart the whole MCU. RDJ's Tony Stark is an instant classic. Suave, witty, and just a bit arrogant for some delicious character development. It also doesn't have the baggage of having to one-up itself so the conflict can stay relatively simple but well-executed. Still one of the best even to this day. Red13n Tony Stark builds the MCU in a cave. But really, I have a soft spot in this movie because of all that it led to. All that came after it, no one could have seen that coming. Just getting to The Avengers seemed like a longshot at the time. We had one movie. But Tony Stark was a character, he was something comic book movies had been missing. He was a larger than life character, bigger than the world around him. But it also had just the right amount of grounding to our reality. The movie wasn't just putting us in Tony Starks universe, it was taking our universe and then letting Tony Stark build in it. While many movies after would feel a bit stale by following some of the formula laid out in Iron Man, coming first awards it a good bit of forgiveness in my mind. MetalDK Started it all. Not Disney yet so it definitely watches a lot differently. Holds up ok with the occasional dated reference (myspace in the first scene lol) --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950599412] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79288169]...</cite> <quote>Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Tony Stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps! When looking at the modern history of superhero films, discussions often talk about how both Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out in the same year, two movies about genius billionaire playboy philanthropists donning suits of gadget wizardry to fight against terror. Perhaps more important is discussing the movies surrounding these two movies at the time: X-Men: The Last Stand, Spider-Man 3, Superman Returns, Hancock, Ghost Rider. Superhero movies were on the downswing, and with X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Green Lantern bombing soon and Kick-Ass and Watchmen going for 'adults-only,' the late 2000s seemed to be heralding the end of the superhero blockbuster. It's absolutely a wonder how Iron Man managed to work so well. Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Hulk, and other high-profile Marvel properties were good at best, but weren't able to sustain any momentum going forward. Costumes looked goofy, casting was awkward, stories didn't work well. They were popcorn flicks, vehicles designed less to feature the comic book character, but the hot Hollywood actors and music industry soundtracks of the time, at least in the case of Daredevil, a movie which I actually enjoy despite all its many flaws. Perhaps, it's Daredevil's faults that led to director Jon Favreau's tighter work on Iron Man, able to see what went wrong with production and corporate heads and bring a tighter rein of focus and control at making a solid effort. From the lesser-valued casting, the focus on character and story driving the action rather than action for the sake of action, and just a great feel of care. Robert Downey Jr. is incredible. He brings to life a character who had been stagnant on paper for decades and turns Tony Stark into a living, breathing person with ambitions, flaws, motives, relationships, cares, worries, a past, a future, and most importantly a voice. You learn very quickly who the man is and how he operates. He's an engineer of war and proud of it until he's subjected to the horrors of what he's wrought and spends the rest of not only the movie, but the rest of the MCU atoning for his mistakes (whilst making more mistakes to atone for). He thinks he alone can change everything for the better, one man in a suit of armor and an artificial heart and unlimited wealth with a dream for a brighter future. It works in this movie. The suit is still some of the most incredible CG put to film, holding up better than a lot of special effects done since. Downey, Howard, Paltrow, Bettany, Favreau, and Bridges all make wonderfully real characters. The surprise appearance of Ultimate Nick Fury at the very end, a character deliberately modeled after Samuel L. Jackson, being played by Samuel L. Jackson was a jaw-dropping moment. And we had the introduction of the ever-wonderful Agent Coulson. I'm certain there's so much more that needs to be said, but as a foundation for the MCU, it is incredibly strong. As a standalone movie, it's almost even better. Raka Putra Ah yes, the original. It was no wonder it was successful enough to kickstart the whole MCU. RDJ's Tony Stark is an instant classic. Suave, witty, and just a bit arrogant for some delicious character development. It also doesn't have the baggage of having to one-up itself so the conflict can stay relatively simple but well-executed. Still one of the best even to this day. Red13n Tony Stark builds the MCU in a cave. But really, I have a soft spot in this movie because of all that it led to. All that came after it, no one could have seen that coming. Just getting to The Avengers seemed like a longshot at the time. We had one movie. But Tony Stark was a character, he was something comic book movies had been missing. He was a larger than life character, bigger than the world around him. But it also had just the right amount of grounding to our reality. The movie wasn't just putting us in Tony Starks universe, it was taking our universe and then letting Tony Stark build in it. While many movies after would feel a bit stale by following some of the formula laid out in Iron Man, coming first awards it a good bit of forgiveness in my mind. MetalDK Started it all. Not Disney yet so it definitely watches a lot differently. Holds up ok with the occasional dated reference (myspace in the first scene lol) --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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