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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
Inviso
02/14/21 12:13:37 PM
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Paratroopa1
Uhhh... I wasn't able to rewatch this one because it's not on Disney+, so I only have my first viewing in theaters to go by, and even though it's the most recent MCU film I barely remember it! I remember enjoying it, because MCU Spider-Man is great. Uhhh... Mysterio was fun? I like all the post-Endgame references, it's fun that they're acknowledging the world's post-snap problems. Peter is sort of an idiot in this movie, the fact that Tony Stark gave him some kind of weapon that's capable of killing anyone in a moment's notice is really weird and kind of undermines his character arc, and the whole fake multiverse plot is sort of a weird way to pull the rug out from under the audience, so I found this movie kind of weird, but still, Spider-Man is great so this movie succeeds anyway. I don't remember this movie very well but I'm sure I'll probably enjoy it and be annoyed by the same things on my second watch.

XIII Rocks
I have the same two problems with both Spider-Man movies, even though Homecoming is better on the whole, so I'll save that for the Homecoming writeup (assuming Homecoming finishes higher, which I guess isn't guaranteed). So here I'll focus solely FFH-only stuff: The sequence where Mysterio screws with Spider-Man is fantastic, a feast of clever, screwy CGI and the ultimate realisation of Mysterio on film. Mysterio himself is in the upper tier of MCU villains, with Gyllenhaal clearly having a blast (FIRE! ALL! THE DRONES! NOOOW!). Happy and Fury's inclusion didn't add a whole lot to me apart from to add MCU connectivity, and to set up the post-credits scene. I'm also less of a fan of MJ in this movie - I get that she's becoming softer towards Peter, but she's hilariously edgy in the first movie and she loses some of that here. But it's still fun - good effects, good spider-powers, and the sequence where Spidey dodges the drones near the end is some of the best Spider-Man swinging in any of the movies.

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Its hilarious how we cant get away from Tony Stark even after hes dead. The guy just cannot stop creating supervillains, he created at least four on his own, and thats not counting the ones his father created. I hope his daughter creates a few, too.

Mr Crispy
Homecoming was a Spiderman film with Iron Man in it. Far From Home is an Iron Man film with Spiderman in it.

Another victim of the sequel losing a lot of what made the original charming by trying to expand the scope and raise the stakes. The whole point of Homecoming was to be a low level, friendly neighborhood Spiderman with a secret identity fighting lower level threats to contrast with the rest of the Avengers being jet setting celebrities saving the world. Far From Home has Peter travelling all over Europe trying to stop "an Avengers level threat". Instead of Peter trying to do the right thing despite it having a negative effect on his personal life, Far From Home is Peter trying to grow as a person trying to stop a villain/problem he's more directly responsible for causing.

Well, the callbacks to the first Iron Man like the "box of scraps" line and the suit design scene are still nice, and Mysterio twist works out better than the Mandarin. Though Beck probably should have been a little less unhinged or treated his team better. And I can't help but think that trying to use technology and holograms to fake big magical fights is less plausible than actual magic. Off the cuff or improvised scenes seem a bit impossible when you also show that it takes a big team years of planning to do the special effects.

The basic concept behind the plot also gets kind of shaky when you stop to think about it more. Tony built yet another drone army to help fight against Thanos, but didn't actually use it in either fight? Or he decided to build it after Thor killed Thanos and he was retired, or at the same time that he was busy helping build the time machine? And Tony planning for Peter to be his successor, when Peter was temporarily dead and Tony wasn't expecting to die. Beck was obsessed with becoming more famous than Tony, but didn't do anything while Tony was retired? Beck knew enough about Tony seeing Peter as a son and successor to create an elaborate ruse where he hides his true personality and pretends to be a father figure to Peter in hopes that he would willingly give up control of the drone army? No wonder they wanted to stick in Skrulls, so they could just wave away questions with "a Skrull did it".

The tag was legitimately great. Got me excited for the next film, and it buoyed up Far From Home in my ranking a bit. (The Secret Invasion tag was zzz and like I already said, felt like a way to wave away deeper scrutiny)

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