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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
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02/16/21 11:44:26 AM
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Maniac64
This movie is a visual masterpiece with an amazing design and style. Wakanda is so cool, everything involving Wakanda in this movie is great. Killmonger may be the best villain in all of Marvel and I am so sad they killed him, the battle of ideals between him and T'Challa is just great writing. The side characters also stand out here with a bunch of memorable new characters introduced, may even be the best overall cast of characters of any individual hero movie. M'Baku has no business being as amazing as he is. This movie is so rewatchable and just great from start to finish. The top 3 movies for me all stand head and shoulders above the rest.

Red13n
Best Popular Film for 2018. Like I do a few times in these movies, I cannot stress enough how much I enjoy being spared an origin story. While it does function as an introduction to Wakanda and the extent of their technology, being able to jump right in to a character having their powers is always a welcome touch in a world where superhero movies have long since been a dime a dozen. We're also given a villain with justifiable motivation and depth, something quite often missing in the MCU. Hard to leave this out, but Chadwick Boseman's death feels like it has left a giant hole in the MCU, it really felt like T'Challa was an obvious choice to be one of the more important characters going forward to replace some of the old guard.

Eddv
Hey it's a movie that tries things! Most of those things are REALLY stupid though. Carried by incredibly strong acting performances that make one of the worst scripts in the MCU almost sort of work.

Sheep007
I have mixed feelings on Black Panther, but the really good stuff outweighs the really bad, and by quite a lot. Lets start with the bad: the bit of the final fight scene in the field is utterly dreadful. There is nothing good about it, and the CGI is hideous (and its not great in a decent part of the train-line fight, either). Its not the funniest movie, and Shuri irritates me in general, but I think that might be because I dont find her funny and I dont particularly like her actress. Fortunately, thats about it. Next, the okay: most of the characters are fine, the plot in a vacuum is just okay, and I dont think it was as straight-up fun as the very highest movies on my ranking, although its still nearly in the top half. Now, the good, and theres plenty of it. The soundtrack and visuals are both gorgeous, with this probably being the strongest original soundtrack in the MCU (theres better soundtracks, but theyre mostly involving insert songs which werent just made for the movie). Wakanda looks great, and every area in the film has a specific aesthetic which isnt just bland, and thats something very few of the older MCU movies nail. The digital environments and costumes are wonderful, and I think that overall there was just a ton of love and care put into this movie, something you dont see or feel in a lot of my lower down movies (looking at you, Ant-Man 2). Despite me saying the characters were mostly fine, theres a couple of exceptions: TChalla is a phenomenal protagonist, and definitely the strongest from the MCU in just their first movie as the main. The other great character is Killmonger, who is the best villain of any MCU movie, and its not even a contest. Yep, I said it. Thanos is a great villain, dont get me wrong, but Killmonger is the best because hes horrible yet sympathetic. More importantly, he has a point, and a pretty damn good one. Its not just relevant in the movie, its incredibly relevant in reality and it changes the protagonist at the same time. The fact that Wakanda have power and have done nothing with it is ridiculous yet very possible, and the idea of using military means to liberate black people is understandable and even justifiable in a lot of ways (hell, the west have used liberation as an excuse to bomb the shit out of places for probably longer than anyone on B8 has been alive), yet still clearly in the wrong. I could go on for hours and hours about this, but its all backed up by a phenomenal performance from Michael B. Jordan, particularly in the ending. The fact that this movie was also made by a black director and with mostly black characters, as well as a plot directly tying into that rather than shying away from it, makes it all the better and even more culturally significant. Theres a lot more I have to say on the subject, but I think this writeup is already long enough, so Ill leave it with one more thing the shot of Killmonger walking up to the throne while the camera is upside down is probably the single best bit of camerawork in the MCU.

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