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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (PHASE TWO!)
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02/16/21 11:47:00 AM
#319:


Mega Mana
First Moment That Comes to Mind: The train fight scene

Of all the moments I list for these entries, this may be the only negative one. It's not something I should really harp on: there was a time crunch to get this out before Infinity War, and many of the animators were invested in the big tentpole movie. But also, I wrote up Ant-Man and the Wasp absolutely stunned by the level of effects work that went in to it and that came out in the same time frame! So the purple and orange early 00s CGI fight in the super sonic train tunnels... that's what my mind remembers about this movie. Which is a shame since the rest of the movie is really good.
Killmonger is excellent, Chadwick Boseman (RIP) is absolute heaven, the supporting cast of Shuri, Okoye, M'Bak, T'Chaka, and N'Jobu are so freaking amazing, Ross is great, realizing at some point Bilbo is interrogating Gollum and laughing out loud in the theatre at a strange time was a highlight, Wakanda as a whole... there's just a lot to like.

To like. I didn't love it like I know people do, but the same also goes for Doctor Strange and Thor Ragnarok. I like it well enough, but I don't revere it like I do some later movies in my list.

Also, who can forget Michael B. Jordan in this? HERE'S WALLACE!

Whiskey Nick
(No write-up.)

NBIceman
Admittedly, this movie probably feels worse to me at times than it actually is because it comes after a streak of really fantastic entries in the MCU and right before Infinity War, because its not like theres not good stuff here. The worldbuilding of Wakanda is great, everyone knows how good Kilmonger is, and the overall plot is nuanced enough that it at least feels like there was effort put in. But Eh. TChalla is a much less compelling character here than he was in Civil War, and the rest of the cast feels like its spread too thin for them to pick up the slack. Klaue is tons of fun, but hes barely involved. TChallas love interest is so forgettable and pointless that I dont even remember her name, which is exceedingly rare for me. The MCU is really driven by character journeys and character interactions, and those aspects are arguably the weakest parts of Black Panther. I dunno; its not bad, its just kinda boring. Feels like a Phase 2 film, and that sort of vibe just doesnt go very far at this point in the saga.

Snake5555555555
Its awesome to see an MCU film with tons of Black representation. And, this movie has some great characters. Chadwick Boseman and Michael B. Jordan deliver all-star performances here, and not just for an MCU film, plus Andy Serkis Klaue makes for a fun returning side-role as a great B-villain. Not to be outdone, Shuri and Martin Freeman are also personal stand-outs for me as well. Theres a great centralized story here where the culture of Wakanda is explored and fleshed-out but where this film loses me and itself is in its terrifying clinging to of cliches, clutching at the typical MCU plot point checklist afraid to make any wrong steps and very keen to make its casting almost the only reason to see this film. For whatever reason, the CGI in this film is especially atrocious, with the final fight especially taking out all of the charisma of its two leads in favor of two blobs fighting each other in candy-vomit land. Theres a supreme lack of stakes in this film and Black Panthers death fake-out is especially one huge eye roll. This couldve been an awesome film, but it settles for mediocrity at almost every step and I just cant see it ranking any higher.

TomNook
I liked this movie a little more when I first saw it, but I don't think it aged well, despite being only 3 years old. This far into the cycle of MCU, you need more things to stand out, which this really doesn't have. Most of the side characters are so tropey to the point it's hard to call them characters--and I realize these are comic book movies...but this film is so much more guilty of this than most of the films here.

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