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TopicMy Ted Cruz hex is working
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02/18/21 6:31:39 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
When you'e skirting the edge of what's acceptable, and something bad happens, yeah, this is what you expect to happen. I'm not sure what they thought would happen, maybe they were out of office when it was going to hit, or something?

They were doing what bureaucrats and politicians do best. They were cutting corners they thought they could get away with, making plans to make themselves nice and comfy, and then kicking around the debris when the plan doesn't work all the while blaming other people.

shadowsword87 posted...
The metal shrinking could cause issues with the wings, but, that's a design issue that should be standard across all wind turbines, not just cold ones and not-cold ones.
The grease and oil could gunk up, not fully freeze, but, slow things down. Oil freezes at a much lower temperature than water, and you can get some super simple stuff to inject in the oil to prepare them for temps lowering. Mass-buying and applying new lubricant is kinda stupid.

Ice buildup is the biggest issue, you can cause serious damage if you apply weight to a windfoil at the wrong position. The mathematics is actually unknown how much ice is acceptable, vs how much isn't, fluid dynamics is horrifically complicated and the failure condition of a windmill snapping off a wing, or an airplane snapping off a wing, is more or less unacceptable to just shrug and move on. It's actually a big issue because planes wings are sprayed off with chemicals that are awful for the environment any time they get ice.

Considering how many of Denmark's wind turbines are out in the ocean, and they have far less in the way of issues? I'm sure the math exists, and countries that are not the US have access to said math.

That said, I do recall, but fail to have a resource on hand, that properly made and lubricated turbines can stand temps between -4 and -100 degrees (depending on pressure from air and wind in addition to frequency of maintenance). With that in mind, along with what I recall of the properties of metal, this sort of build would have been fine in warmer climates as well. However, I'm sure the people in charge saw this as being too pricey, so they went with the cheapest steel or metals they could use, and the typically hot weather of Texas was nothing more than a poor excuse to cover for just not wanting to spend a few (thousand?) dollars more on something that would actually function and last.

shadowsword87 posted...
Installing a heating system in a wind turbine in texas is... kinda stupid. Not going to lie. When this happens, they just need to be de-iced, and it takes a bit. If the other systems on the grid are robust enough, it should be able to handle the additional strain. But, it looks like the propane has gone down from the temperature, and, a nuclear power plant had to go offline for saftey reasons as well.

A year-round system? Sure. But precautionary packets in readily accessible storage--think boxes of Christmas lights and decorations in a garage, but orderly due to regulations--to set up whenever the signs are pointing to time to put up such measures? Come on. That is always something to prepare for, even if you don't think you need it 97% of the time.

It's like safety equipment in any grocery store. You can hope to not have to use it very often, and some parts of that equipment might even see minimal use over the course of a year or three, but having said equipment is a must. You can have some top-tier chefs working for your deli or bakery and expect they won't need to worry about cutting themselves often, which is a laughable take to have with cooks in general, but cutting gloves are still necessary to have and to wear.

Back to this, well, Texas is only so warm or hot most of the time, and yet it does have its bursts of cold, its occasional snow. Proper equipment and measures exist, with all of the math and procedures tied to them after so many years of colder regions testing them, so the answer should have been to invest in those packets and maintain them, because chances are that such cost would have been lower than what Texas now faces in trying to help its own people.

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