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CyricZ posted...

And furthermore, to the context of "we should recognize it's unhealthy", for crying out loud, do you think heavy people don't KNOW that they're fat? Do you think they don't feel that shame every day? When they turn on the TV, go on the internet, or go out in public?

When heavy people are trying to find some way to love themselves, which is honestly the first step towards a better life (no matter what they decide that is for them, and that is ONLY their decision to make), who the hell are any of us to say "Have you SEEN the statistics for your life expectancy? What about the people you could influence? I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP."

You're really out of touch with the latest wave of body positivity and fat activism. The movement has been taken over by anti-science charlatans who are increasingly pushing the narrative that even being morbidly obese is healthy. They make claims that the negative effects/conditions associated with it can be blamed on the general lack of respect for and mistreatment of obese people by the medical establishment, big pharma, big diet, and everyone else. They've also moved onto appropriating/co-opting other marginalized communities and have tied up fatphobia with racism, colonialism, homophobia, and every other kind of bigotry.

I fell for HAES myself in 2017 and paid for it but at least back then it was something a bit more rational (to desperate and vulnerable people tired of the weight loss roller coaster, at least), the idea that a fat person could be healthy and active without issues. Now it's tied up in this whirlwind of defeatism, denial, pseudoscience, and a desperate need for victimhood to blame everyone and everything else for something that ultimately boils down to personal responsibility.

That isn't to say that there aren't serious issues with society that exacerbates obesity. There are. And I've experienced all the negative treatment an obese person can, so believe me, I do not promote that at all. Anyone trying to denigrate obese people under the pretense of health (or at all, tbh) is a piece of crap but the kind of environment Lizzo and other fat activists of her type is very dangerous in its own way.

Seriously, spend some time in FA circles and really understand what's going on there. I wasn't kidding when I said they're not a lot different from anti-vaxxers. They're detached from reality and people will suffer because of the message they spread.

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