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TopicCommunism and socialism go against selfish human nature
MedeaLysistrata
06/04/21 1:43:32 PM
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averagejoel posted...
TC is probably going to say something like "*gestures at all of human history*"

best case scenario, he's going to mention like 3 cherry-picked examples with no explanation of how any of them actually show that humans are inherently greedy
Yeah I mean even at the global level, empires mostly lost out to nations. Empires are clearly more greedy in nature but were abandoned because of wars and stuff I guess. So that is one (fairly cherry picked kek) example of how human nature changes with conditions. So I think we're able to go a less greedy route when it means getting along. I'm not a historian though and neither is the dude I questioned so maybe asking for details like that makes no sense

Questionmarktarius posted...
Life will never be "fair", despite any attempt to forcefully make it so.
The best we can really do is try to make things slightly less crappy for someone who's getting shit on by life.
Would you believe justice as fairness is mostly a liberal idea? It's very Rawlsian, who I understand to more or less be one of the poster children for the current western world order. But that is more theoretical.

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