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Topic	Mycro ranks the 278 VGM tracks nominated by BOARD EIGHT [rankings] 3 -(TOP_100)-
Toxtricity 05/01/22 2:31:13 AM #392:	1th Game: Lightfield Title: Shadoubt Shaps Composer: Zanshin Nominator: @Place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFypko3_tS8 {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} the piercing lazer beams of this one are a real pleasure to start out with. THIS was the "[THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN REMOVED TO PREVENT TEMPORAL ANOMALIES. PLEASE BE PATIENT]" track I was referring to on ridicule. It's some of the closest I've ever heard anything get to the stuff I like about ilkae or bunbleman that isn't ilkae or bunbleman. The best part about it to me is the fact that it's a kinda swingy-shuffle feel, but it's a totally deconstructed and forcibly computerized way of that. what could be a bouncy funky groove gets surgically spliced apart by other layers enforcing this as even-spaced-triplets rather than the bouncy swingy/shuffly feel it'd have otherwise i thought i would have to make some sort of visual to describe this, but i think it's not too hard to tell what I mean? anyways at the time i made this topic, this was so perfect to what i was looking for at that exact time it was nearly overwhelming; no question that this would wind up at the #1 slot (and even now; when i've admitted the real #1 by my 2022 taste is yggdrasil...this is still like, not that far behind it. it didn't make my top50 vgmgg list but i would consider it to be an unsaid honourable mention there, it's likely my favorite thing in the "music that sounds like ilkae" zone [nothing by ilkae made that list either, despite considering him one of my favorite artists. the cluster where that style starts is like "55th place" or something so it just barely didn't make the cut. and i didn't want to spoil that this was my #1 of this topic by placing it into the honorable mentions list of that vgmgg]) but really i was overwhelmed how perfect this was because i was DESPERATE for more "rhythmically complex idm" (why this and ridicule particularly nailed so high placements). was /desparate/ for more _Houndoom stuff. but i also maybe even moreso was desperate for _Zorua stuff, which is harder to find because it's largely about...very precise forms of dissonance, managing to be funky and complex at once without cancelling itself out. there's not even many artists who can consistently be that other than zzzv. but this track is like, honestly EXTREMELY zzzv; just the more idm/ilkae leaning manner of such. it was the perfect merge of the two types of music i was most lacking awareness of at the time and i'm so thankful to have now been exposed to it I posted spider by bunbleman earlier which is the most similar track i can think of to this; https://inpuj.bandcamp.com/track/spider i guess maybe something like this is comparable? https://inpuj.bandcamp.com/track/colt-cabana there's some autechre stuff kiiinda in the zone too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkP9OfQLhE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOrxEByTUE&t=193s oh wait i guess BISK has some equivalent stuff too (this is actually probably the most similar exact track to shadoubt shaps i can think of): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zYrhAnf9Wo anyway i t's honestly extremely hard to be "funky" and "mathematical" at the same time and not really cancel each others' energy out in this way. when i first heard it, i was really,...really not expecting it to be this impossibly attained balance! I was just expecting it to either become entirely one or the other quickly; but it wasn't even just alternating. it was /simultaneously/ funky groovy cool guy music and precisely mathematically erraticly gridded. this is something that has definitely become a core facet of what i look for---i LOVE "progressive rock" and so naturally can understand the appeal of long suites with lots of varied styles and sections wildly different from each other. and often combining contrasting styles in rapid alternation (people like jordan rudess and shnabubula are very good at this; see "the song i ranked #2 in this topic"). BUT what's even more impressive is when the complexity and simplicity---the funk and the anti-funk---the weird and the normal---. When these are simultaneous, it doesn't even become monotonous, because the track will have to be so precisely balanced with so much going on that there's no way i can feel it as anything other than stimulating. every listen i can decide to fixate on a different element or style Shadoubt Shaps is really one tempo all the way through, but it feels organic and moving, and all it takes is one layer showing up, or disappearing, to change the context of everything around. like going thru it, it starts off very "bouncy", but around :25 some layers question that, and turn it more gridded. and by :43 that synth bass has taken over and made this into a COMPUTER WORLD instead of a funky alleyway. by 1:09 it's a bit more organic again, but then 1:29 brings back the synth bass and it's suddenly far more discombobulated a groove. which gets even more extreme when that higher layer's removed by 1:49...This isn't even exactly "obvious" though, like when i'm listening i'm hearing this all as SEAMLESS. I'm hearing totally different ways of interpreting the same note/rhythm sequences at different timestamps in the song, but it's not even obvious where the divisions are when it starts to feel different, because all it really takes is the presence/absence of certain layers (though there are some obvious more striking moments of change here). ~4:20 is a pretty fascinating departure from the rest because it's probably the most tonally conventional the track gets (it's dissonant, but in a way more adjacent to traditional classical ways of that sorta thing), and i guess it works very well as a climax and finale for that reason i've barely even talked about the sound design here, it's INSANE. ridiculously metallic and electronic. and DENSE. there's always so so sooo much going on at once. there's like, a wall of noise behind whatever the actual focus of the track is, and it really pays off to sell this specific artificial and dark atmosphere. feels like you're in the DARK MACHINE --- time <cite>Toxtricity posted [p:964702188] in Mycro rank... [t:79374344]...</cite> <quote>1th Game: Lightfield Title: Shadoubt Shaps Composer: Zanshin Nominator: @Place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFypko3_tS8 {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} {{{{ALERT: I AM NOMINATING THIS SONG FOR VGMC16.}}}} the piercing lazer beams of this one are a real pleasure to start out with. THIS was the "[THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN REMOVED TO PREVENT TEMPORAL ANOMALIES. PLEASE BE PATIENT]" track I was referring to on ridicule. It's some of the closest I've ever heard anything get to the stuff I like about ilkae or bunbleman that isn't ilkae or bunbleman. The best part about it to me is the fact that it's a kinda swingy-shuffle feel, but it's a totally deconstructed and forcibly computerized way of that. what could be a bouncy funky groove gets surgically spliced apart by other layers enforcing this as even-spaced-triplets rather than the bouncy swingy/shuffly feel it'd have otherwise i thought i would have to make some sort of visual to describe this, but i think it's not too hard to tell what I mean? anyways at the time i made this topic, this was so perfect to what i was looking for at that exact time it was nearly overwhelming; no question that this would wind up at the #1 slot (and even now; when i've admitted the real #1 by my 2022 taste is yggdrasil...this is still like, not that far behind it. it didn't make my top50 vgmgg list but i would consider it to be an unsaid honourable mention there, it's likely my favorite thing in the "music that sounds like ilkae" zone [nothing by ilkae made that list either, despite considering him one of my favorite artists. the cluster where that style starts is like "55th place" or something so it just barely didn't make the cut. and i didn't want to spoil that this was my #1 of this topic by placing it into the honorable mentions list of that vgmgg]) but really i was overwhelmed how perfect this was because i was DESPERATE for more "rhythmically complex idm" (why this and ridicule particularly nailed so high placements). was /desparate/ for more _Houndoom stuff. but i also maybe even moreso was desperate for _Zorua stuff, which is harder to find because it's largely about...very precise forms of dissonance, managing to be funky and complex at once without cancelling itself out. there's not even many artists who can consistently be that other than zzzv. but this track is like, honestly EXTREMELY zzzv; just the more idm/ilkae leaning manner of such. it was the perfect merge of the two types of music i was most lacking awareness of at the time and i'm so thankful to have now been exposed to it I posted spider by bunbleman earlier which is the most similar track i can think of to this; https://inpuj.bandcamp.com/track/spider i guess maybe something like this is comparable? https://inpuj.bandcamp.com/track/colt-cabana there's some autechre stuff kiiinda in the zone too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkP9OfQLhE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOrxEByTUE&t=193s oh wait i guess BISK has some equivalent stuff too (this is actually probably the most similar exact track to shadoubt shaps i can think of): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zYrhAnf9Wo anyway i t's honestly extremely hard to be "funky" and "mathematical" at the same time and not really cancel each others' energy out in this way. when i first heard it, i was really,...really not expecting it to be this impossibly attained balance! I was just expecting it to either become entirely one or the other quickly; but it wasn't even just alternating. it was /simultaneously/ funky groovy cool guy music and precisely mathematically erraticly gridded. this is something that has definitely become a core facet of what i look for---i LOVE "progressive rock" and so naturally can understand the appeal of long suites with lots of varied styles and sections wildly different from each other. and often combining contrasting styles in rapid alternation (people like jordan rudess and shnabubula are very good at this; see "the song i ranked #2 in this topic"). BUT what's even more impressive is when the complexity and simplicity---the funk and the anti-funk---the weird and the normal---. When these are simultaneous, it doesn't even become monotonous, because the track will have to be so precisely balanced with so much going on that there's no way i can feel it as anything other than stimulating. every listen i can decide to fixate on a different element or style Shadoubt Shaps is really one tempo all the way through, but it feels organic and moving, and all it takes is one layer showing up, or disappearing, to change the context of everything around. like going thru it, it starts off very "bouncy", but around :25 some layers question that, and turn it more gridded. and by :43 that synth bass has taken over and made this into a COMPUTER WORLD instead of a funky alleyway. by 1:09 it's a bit more organic again, but then 1:29 brings back the synth bass and it's suddenly far more discombobulated a groove. which gets even more extreme when that higher layer's removed by 1:49...This isn't even exactly "obvious" though, like when i'm listening i'm hearing this all as SEAMLESS. I'm hearing totally different ways of interpreting the same note/rhythm sequences at different timestamps in the song, but it's not even obvious where the divisions are when it starts to feel different, because all it really takes is the presence/absence of certain layers (though there are some obvious more striking moments of change here). ~4:20 is a pretty fascinating departure from the rest because it's probably the most tonally conventional the track gets (it's dissonant, but in a way more adjacent to traditional classical ways of that sorta thing), and i guess it works very well as a climax and finale for that reason i've barely even talked about the sound design here, it's INSANE. ridiculously metallic and electronic. and DENSE. there's always so so sooo much going on at once. there's like, a wall of noise behind whatever the actual focus of the track is, and it really pays off to sell this specific artificial and dark atmosphere. feels like you're in the DARK MACHINE --- time</quote> ... 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