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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" -Patrick Henry

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

"the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself" -Franklin D. Roosevelt

Historically concern for public safety is abandoned when personal freedom is denied. In order to protect public safety it is necessary to safe guard personal freedom before people feel that it has gotten to that point.

Personal freedom has literally never been taken to that extreme, nor can it without causing a complete collapse of society. Do you get uppity about your freedoms being infringed whenever you see a stop sign? Of course not, because that would be stupid. Do you complain when people get arrested for shooting at people? Of course not, because that would be stupid. This is also stupid. Stop being stupid.

There will always be room to argue about whether the public safety benefit in any given instance outweighs the harm of the associated infringements on personal liberty, but categorically saying that personal freedom should never be limited for the sake of public safety is so insanely idiotic that no self-respecting person should ever even consider saying that. If you want to take that position here without being stupid about it, you're going to have to argue that requiring people to wear masks to shop is worse - in a practical sense - than risking death for the people around them. Good luck, because that's very obviously not something that can be justified objectively.

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