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Topic	Just looked into the whole China/Taiwan scenario.
darkknight109 11/29/21 11:59:22 AM #27:	THEGODDAMNBATMA posted... but in reality Taiwan wants to be THE China and wants the mainland to be part of THEIR country. No, they don't. That ship sailed a good 70 years ago now. Amuseum posted... muh freedoms, while every western democratic nation is in lockdowns Because targeted limitations on movements to try and combat a deadly global pandemic are totally the same as a repressive totalitarian regime completely crushing any dissent and disappearing the perpetrators. Krazy_Kirby posted... we wouldn't have to pay back our debt I mean, that's debatable, because presumably China wouldn't just magically poof out of existence. The US would still owe debt to whatever entity replaced it, which would almost certainly take over its obligations (both owing and owed). This is also ignoring that the vast majority of US debt isn't foreign-owned; two thirds of it is owned by American businesses and individuals. China only owns about 4% of America's debt. Hell, they're not even the largest foreign holder of American debt - that would be Japan, which owns about $200 billion more than China. Finally, not having to pay back China isn't really the boon you think it is, because America doesn't have to pay back that debt now, so long as they continue paying the interest. America sells debt to China to finance its own operations; accordingly, the single most damaging thing that China could do with that debt is to stop buying it, so having China suddenly disappear would leave a considerable hole in US finances that would need to be filled. THEGODDAMNBATMA posted... I'm literally just looking out for AMERICA'S best interests. Avoid conflict! You realize that Taiwan is responsible for about two-thirds of the global supply of semiconductors? Hell, a single Taiwanese company - TSMC - produces more than half the semiconductors for the entire world. If, God forbid, China were to take over Taiwan, you're handing them a virtual monopoly of an incredibly important strategic resource that is needed for everything from cars to computers to military tech. Even ignoring the humanitarian aspect of allowing a people to fall to tyranny, it is absolutely in America's interests that Taiwan remain free from China. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:960457514] in Just looke... [t:79785514]...</cite> <quote>THEGODDAMNBATMA posted... </cite> <quote>but in reality Taiwan wants to be THE China and wants the mainland to be part of THEIR country.</quote>No, they don't. That ship sailed a good 70 years ago now. Amuseum posted... </cite> <quote>muh freedoms, while every western democratic nation is in lockdowns</quote>Because targeted limitations on movements to try and combat a deadly global pandemic are totally the same as a repressive totalitarian regime completely crushing any dissent and disappearing the perpetrators. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>we wouldn't have to pay back our debt</quote>I mean, that's debatable, because presumably China wouldn't just magically poof out of existence. The US would still owe debt to whatever entity replaced it, which would almost certainly take over its obligations (both owing and owed). This is also ignoring that the vast majority of US debt isn't foreign-owned; two thirds of it is owned by American businesses and individuals. China only owns about 4% of America's debt. Hell, they're not even the largest foreign holder of American debt - that would be Japan, which owns about $200 billion more than China. Finally, not having to pay back China isn't really the boon you think it is, because America doesn't have to pay back that debt now, so long as they continue paying the interest. America sells debt to China to finance its own operations; accordingly, the single most damaging thing that China could do with that debt is to stop buying it, so having China suddenly disappear would leave a considerable hole in US finances that would need to be filled. THEGODDAMNBATMA posted... </cite> <quote>I'm literally just looking out for AMERICA'S best interests. Avoid conflict!</quote>You realize that Taiwan is responsible for about two-thirds of the global supply of semiconductors? Hell, a single Taiwanese company - TSMC - produces more than half the semiconductors for the entire world. If, God forbid, China were to take over Taiwan, you're handing them a virtual monopoly of an incredibly important strategic resource that is needed for everything from cars to computers to military tech. Even ignoring the humanitarian aspect of allowing a people to fall to tyranny, it is absolutely in America's interests that Taiwan remain free from China. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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