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20. Frozen II

Red: 13
Inviso: 16
Johnbobb: 17
Evillord: 23
Ermine: 28
Karo: 34

Total: 131

Red: A sequel we unfortunately knew was coming the moment frozen made megabucks and you went a year without being able to hide from hearing Let It Go everywhere. Hell if there is something to bet on getting a reference in any new Disney film, it is probably Let It Go. If there was something you could bet on a Frozen 2 dealing with, it is the origin of Elsa's powers. And to no surprise, we're dealing somewhat with the origin of Elsa's powers. Except in doing so we're also going to spit on the original and decide Elsa doesn't really belong as queen and needs to go live with magic people because she doesn't belong in Arendelle or something. It is really bad messaging that really leaves a big stain on the franchise if you think about it too hard. The music is mostly though but we don't hit the highs of the original. Still wouldn't be surprised if we're hit with a Frozen 3 at some point in our lives.

Inviso: It says a lot about the quality of this list as a whole, that Frozen 2 is ranking as highly as it is. Frozen 1 is overrated, but at least it has a coherent narrative from start to finish. Sure, they had to rewrite when they realized how awesome Elsa was, and therefore they couldnt just make her a generic Disney villain (whichhonestly, probably hurt the brand in terms of replicating villains of the past). Anyway, with Frozen 2, its very clear that the success of Frozen 1 forced Disneys hand into creating a sequel, and they didnt have the best ideas for it. Elsa is still awesome, and continuing her story of questioning why shes uniquely magically was a good choicebut everything else feels off. Theres this theme of growing up that doesnt mesh with Elsa learning about the past, yet its Olafs main thingplus theres this weird will they/wont they storyline with Kristoff and Anna. Basically, much like Frozen 1, Elsa carries the film as best she can, but unlike Frozen 1, I feel like the other characters dont uphold their end of the bargain as much as they need to. Its still decent enough, but Elsa alone cant push this higher.

Johnbobb: Frozen 2: Frozen Harder, where the ice is icier and Olaf is sillier and...
https://imgur.com/1K1L6kn
...oh

Evillord: I actually liked this more than expected. I thought the two girls learning about their country's dark past was a nice story idea and there were some cool visuals, especially the part where Elsa is trying to freeze her way across the stormy sea. It does suffer from trying to tie everything up too nicely, though (I would've respected it more if the castle really did get destroyed) and the songs are generally lackluster.

Ermine: It is sad to rank this movie so low after I enjoyed the first film so much but this really was just a complete let down in every regard. The songs aren't even CLOSE to as good as they were in the first and "Into the Unknown" is such an obvious attempt to recreate "Let It Go" that it hurts.

WE MUST HAVE AN EPIC INCREDIBLE SONG WITH THE SAME EXACT ENERGY AS LET IT GO...!

No, stop, just let things be natural. This song was the most unnatural forcing of anything I've ever seen. And the song itself isn't even that bad, it's kind of good! Just the context behind it feels so forced and ugh.

And then we have the characters... what the hell did they do to Anna and Kristoph to make them so unlikable now? Why are these arguments they are having and romantic trouble so incredible cringe and forced? Oh that's right, because the writers decided to shit own their own characters and make them say things they would absolutely never say.

The plot? Man, I just don't care. They had this cool lizard thing that I thought was going to be relevant and then it just didn't matter at all... because reasons?

What a shit show.

Karo: In a small bout of schizophrenia Elsa wakes the magical spirits of the enchanted forest that we are only just now hearing about and wrecks the kingdom again, and thus everyone embarks on a forced arbitrary quest to set things right. Anyway they head into the lost woods and find a tribe of magical native people and these soldiers who were trapped in the forest for like 30 years and still have their uniforms in good repair and have perfectly cut hair.
The way Elsa acts throughout the film is truly bizarre, it is like they decided to fuse part of Moana's personality onto her and make her into this wild obsessive woman who hears a magical siren call and is like 'fuck all these people who love and care about me, I gotta do some adventure shit'. Elsa then gets pissed when Anna is worried about her and wants to be by her side, so in order to keep her sister safe from harm, Elsa puts her into a canoe made of ice and shoves her down a rocky embankment nearly killing her.
The music is frankly forgettable for the most part. There are a few decent songs, but the majority I have forgotten completely within an hour of finishing the movie. Given how music was such a big part of the first film this is truly disappointing.
Soooo, Anna frees the forest by destroying a dam that was hurting the environment, something the all powerful spirits of nature were not able to do themselves for REASONS, and everyone lives happily ever after. Sort of.
Elsa stays behind to be the bitch of the spirit world because that is what is 'expected' of her, leaving the kingdom in the capable hands of her ditzy twin sister who tried to marry a psychopath after knowing him for 10 minutes, and we end with the touching moral of 'magic people are cool but they should stay with other magic people'.
Jesus fucking Christ.
How do we go from themes of accepting others for being different and being proud of yourself to themes of blind conformity and extolling racial separatism in just one film? How the fuck do you miss the point of your own movie this badly that you make a sequel with the literal opposite message?
How do you turn a simple story of the love between sisters into a contrived clusterfuck of confusing mysticism and laughable 'gotcha' moments that plays out like some abysmal piece of bad fanfiction?
By making sequels that have absolutely no reason for existing, that is how. Just listen to your own damn song Disney, and let it fucking go.