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TopicTo continue a thread (on Israel/Palestine)
Kakapo
01/27/22 6:07:56 AM
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MrMallard posted...
From its inception, Israel was pitched as an apartheid state. I can understand Jews wanting a homeland, with the area that their predecessors settled being in Palestine, but everything they're doing to the Palestinian people who've been living there for generations is wrong.

And the thing is, Israel was established after WWII and for decades they've had Israel as their homeland. It came at the price of Palestinian lives and was enforced with guns and soldiers, but Israel is there now. It's understandable that Palestine and Israel aren't on friendly terms.

But here's the thing - Israelis have Israel. Palestinians have Palestine. The two countries exist, and things have been that way for a couple of generations now.

So why is Israel expanding further into Palestine?

Why are IDF soldiers arresting Muslim holy-men and their families, evicting them from their homes without letting them pack their belongings, and demolishing the house with generations worth of photos, writing, possessions and documents?

Israel exists. But they should be content with what they have. Instead, they accrued military force, and they're conducting ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people.

They could have let Palestine have the Gaza strip. They could have erected their borders and declared Israel their homeland, and worked on their political relationship with Palestine to have a mutually beneficial travel agreement for Israelis to visit Jeruselum and for Muslims to visit the Dead Sea and other religious sites. But to this day, they walk into Palestine and stomp on the heads of children in the name of ethnic cleansing. It's disgusting.

To attribute this to all Jews is to compare all Muslims to Osama bin Laden - it's an extremist and erroneous statement, and it breeds bigotry. In no way are my comments intended to be a slight against the Jewish religion and its practitioners, the same way my comments against the CCP are not intended to be a bigoted slight against the people of China who have to live under that authoritarian government. What I'm criticising is a state, and the violence which that state perpetrates. There are Zionists, but there are Jewish people who understand the atrocities that the state of Israel commit against the Palestinian people and disagree with it.

But there's no way around it. The state of Israel has been committing completely unnecessary acts of violence and power against Palestine for decades, and what they're committing against those people now is ethnic cleansing. Israel is seizing land from Palestine, arresting/killing Palestinians who are legally settled there - whose lineage goes back centuries - and destroying their homes so they have nowhere to live. Israel is engaging in a campaign of ethnic cleansing, and for all the squabbles and issues they've had with Palestine in the past, such an egregious, illegal and vulgar display of power is wrong and should not be tolerated by the people of the world.

Also fuck Gal Gadot, as far as I'm concerned she's a child murderer.
Once again, you have very adroitly summed up a situation and articulated the issues clearly and with a presence of mind that is quite out of place on CE.

Thats a round about way of saying I agree completely, I guess.

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