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Topic	ATTN: Pro drug legalizers
Zeus 04/06/17 2:52:01 AM #81:	Erik_P posted... You're only now calling it reform because you realized how bad you looked when you kept promoting Prohibition as a good thing. You've just moved the goalposts so people will be more likely to agree with you. Except no, I literally called it reform in the last 5 or 6 topics INCLUDING the one discussing prohibition in general where I outlined things that need to be changed. It's literally not a new thing. As for "moving the goalposts," my suggestions and general stances haven't changed. However, since we discussed this a year ago, I've started to use terms that you can understand and appreciate. This is also literally the tactic used by liberal advocates in general. Erik_P posted... If you want to know liquor laws in your state here's a link: http://www.stateliquorlaws.com/map These are all the laws in just Minnesota. There's plenty of laws regulating alcohol. Oh would you look at that? Once again you make a bullshit accusation that gets shot down immediately. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=340a First off, those laws are like nothing and do very little to regulate it when it comes to the CONSUMER, which is the one area that truly matters. They're just tiny restrictions built around a federal guideline so it's like the wild west. Second, and more importantly, the current laws are inadequate so either need them replaced or additional legislation. So yeah, more of Erik's bullshit torn apart. Erik_P posted... I guess you've never heard of ankle bracelets that detect alcohol. Also, DUI's go on your record. I would also recommend clicking those links I provided above to find out punishments for breaking the law. How about you find the law which bans people from ever drinking again and has systems in place to prevent them from purchasing? Oh, you mean there isn't one? Yet we have it for guns. So literally like I said, somebody who sells alcohol to minors can go to prison for it and, the same day he gets out, legally buy alcohol which he could then sell to minors. Erik_P posted... There's no need to ban beer ads. There absolutely is. If you're trying to change the culture, you need to regulate ads. We've already decided to ban cigarette ads. Get with the times. Erik_P posted... Even if we increased laws people would still drink alcohol. Which of course you want banned. While seeing alcohol gone is a noble endpoint, the real issue is reversing alcohol culture and curbing alcohol abuse. The provisions that I've suggested go a long way towards reducing DUIs, crime, etc, WITHOUT banning alcohol. These laws make everybody safer and allow people to enjoy alcohol more safely. Do you not want people to be safe, awful Erik? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:876639347] in ATTN: Pro ... [t:75186847]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>You're only now calling it reform because you realized how bad you looked when you kept promoting Prohibition as a good thing. You've just moved the goalposts so people will be more likely to agree with you. </quote> Except no, I literally called it reform in the last 5 or 6 topics INCLUDING the one discussing prohibition in general where I outlined things that need to be changed. It's literally not a new thing. As for "moving the goalposts," my suggestions and general stances haven't changed. However, since we discussed this a year ago, I've started to use terms that you can understand and appreciate. This is also literally the tactic used by liberal advocates in general. <cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote> If you want to know liquor laws in your state here's a link: http://www.stateliquorlaws.com/map These are all the laws in just Minnesota. There's plenty of laws regulating alcohol. Oh would you look at that? Once again you make a bullshit accusation that gets shot down immediately. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=340a </quote> First off, those laws are like nothing and do very little to regulate it when it comes to the CONSUMER, which is the one area that truly matters. They're just tiny restrictions built around a federal guideline so it's like the wild west. Second, and more importantly, the current laws are inadequate so either need them replaced or additional legislation. So yeah, more of Erik's bullshit torn apart. <cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>I guess you've never heard of ankle bracelets that detect alcohol. Also, DUI's go on your record. I would also recommend clicking those links I provided above to find out punishments for breaking the law.</quote> How about you find the law which bans people from ever drinking again and has systems in place to prevent them from purchasing? Oh, you mean there isn't one? Yet we have it for guns. So literally like I said, somebody who sells alcohol to minors can go to prison for it and, the same day he gets out, legally buy alcohol which he could then sell to minors. <cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>There's no need to ban beer ads.</quote> There absolutely is. If you're trying to change the culture, you need to regulate ads. We've already decided to ban cigarette ads. Get with the times. <cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>Even if we increased laws people would still drink alcohol. Which of course you want banned.</quote> While seeing alcohol gone is a noble endpoint, the real issue is reversing alcohol culture and curbing alcohol abuse. The provisions that I've suggested go a long way towards reducing DUIs, crime, etc, WITHOUT banning alcohol. These laws make everybody safer and allow people to enjoy alcohol more safely. Do you not want people to be safe, awful Erik? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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