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| Topic | 22 y/o Kid who RAPED a Girl is now in a COLLEGE TEXTBOOK with his FACE in it!!! |
| adjl 09/14/17 7:24:45 PM #41: | Zeus posted... Except her life is hardly ruined, I mean, she might recover after extensive PTSD treatment and be able to live a reasonably healthy life, but that's going to suck. Zeus posted... the extent to which she was actually a victim is murky, One nurse who administered a Sexual Assault Response Team examination at the hospital determined that she had experienced "significant trauma" (physical injury or bruising) including "penetrating trauma." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner#Incident_details) Anyone with "penetrating trauma" is a victim. Whether they're a victim of rape or of a very unfortunate accident isn't guaranteed, but generally speaking, a woman that's capable of consenting will stop her partner before getting to that point. There's nothing murky about that. Zeus posted... Unfortunately, the only two real testimonies from the incident itself come from heavily intoxicated persons and, since she allegedly passed out at one point, she was more heavily soused than him so her testimony is even less reliable. He testified that he remembered the events of the night, she testified that she remembered nothing. That's an unarguable "he shouldn't have been having sex with her," however reliable the details of the testimony may be. Zeus posted... Meanwhile, the guys who grabbed Brock showed up after the fact. And found him on top of an unconscious girl. That's pretty hard to misconstrue (and would also qualify as "during the fact"). Zeus posted... While trauma is personal, it's silly to ever pretend that there are no benchmarks. Sure, there are benchmarks, but you don't get to decide how closely she matches them. Ever. This is not negotiable, regardless of the rape victim's circumstances. Zeus posted... More broadly speaking, you'd sooner kill a man -- by your own admission earlier the same post -- than hear his side of the story What story? I'm talking about some magical way of telling rapists from people that aren't worthless pieces of garbage. I would have thought it was obvious that I was being slightly facetious, given the absurd oversimplification of a very complex sociocultural issue. Zeus posted... Given that the definition of rape that you and that "that's what she said!" brand of male feminists have pushed has turned to consent AFTER the fact, it's a somewhat unreasonable standard. I know you've seen the statistic on what percentage of sexual assault accusations turn out to be false, so I'll let you bring it out and debunk your own point. You know as well as I do that there are far, FAR more sexual assault victims that don't come forward than there are false accusations, despite the narrative you're trying to push. Yeah, false accusations suck, but that's true of any crime. That's not a reason to stop taking sexual assault seriously, or to stop pushing for a cultural shift toward better understanding the subtle nuances of consent. I'll say it again: It's very easy to not rape somebody. I'll clarify: It's very easy to make sure that your sexual partner is completely okay with what you're doing. If you're not comfortable having that conversation with them, then you aren't mature enough to be having sex in the first place. Period. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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