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Topic'Dear Conquered People' - what's your opinion on this meme?
legendary_zell
10/12/17 9:58:55 PM
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WaffIeElite posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Disgusting. This is why conservative "comedy" gets criticized. Literally taking pride in talking down to marginalized people and celebrating their brutal repression and the gains won from it.

I bet you anything that the person who wrote this and is reveling in the domination imposed by his ancestors would throw a fit if you suggested reparations for racial discrimination because "that was my ancestors, I've never oppressed everyone, my family were Irish immigrants who moved here in 2016"


It's not 'pride', it's about telling people to shut the fuck up about claiming to be victims for something they weren't victims of, and blaming people who weren't responsible. Shit happened in the past, fucking grow up and deal with it. I don't go around throwing a pity party about what the Nazis did to my family, expecting free shit and sympathy.


LMAO, I shouldn't even respond because you're Waffle, but I'll do it for the sake of the people who might read this. Do you even know what the word pride means? That "meme" is dripping with pride. The writer is clearly coming from a perspective of European pride/Supremacy. You can see it clear as day that they are taking pride AND destroying your "we didn't do it" point (that I already anticipated and addressed in the post you're quoting) when they say "you want us to regret being better than you".

That's clearly taking both credit and pride for their ancestor's conquest. You can't take credit and then reject it when it doesn't suit you. It makes it even clearer when it says "you want apologies from people who were smarter and stronger than you and who won". They're claiming pride and membership in the group that won through oppression.

Disputing that is either disingenuous or a confession that you can't read.

I don't know how you can say Native Americans stuck on reservations with their culture destroyed and land taken aren't victims of the very acts that resulted in those outcomes. I mean they don't have what they would have otherwise had. The past and the present aren't alternate universes or even disconnected, they are intimately connected. Everything happening today is a result of things done in the past, by nature.
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