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Topic	Is Peak TV killing TV?
scarletspeed7 12/31/17 2:42:08 PM #5:	SaveEstelle posted... It's why I wasn't really drinking the Kool-Aid on Star Trek: Discovery being particularly commercially successful when CBS was saying it drove subscriptions to the same ballpark. Where are the numbers, you know? Then I saw the actual numbers through insider stuff and they seemed... fine? It wasn't until Netflix's international Most Watched 2017 list started circulating and Discovery ranked in one of the lists that I was like, "alright, yeah, you've done alright here." Yeah, but what's more successful: ST:D or The Orville? Because Netflix's international viewership included, STD's expenses HAVE to dwarf Orville considerably. And at the same time, The Orville apparently pulled a better rating in the demo, and it remained on TV which will bolster FOX considerably given their lack of ratings in, well, anything. STD drew record sign-ups, but it only had competition from what? The Good Fight? A show that was primed at an audience less likely to sign-up for streaming services (because they're old)? SaveEstelle posted... How much was spent to get there, however? How much can continually be tossed into Star Trek: Discovery to keep that particular set of viewers comfortable? Has to be the big question now. SaveEstelle posted... The same applies to Twin Peaks. (I think. I don't know. I don't follow it. Is it supposed to be coming back? Is the jury still out? "Limited Series" is often a convenient way of covering up one's possible failures if a show doesn't hit a certain financial ceiling; I have no doubt they'll bring it back if it's doing well enough to justify the action.) It was supposed to be a limited series from its initial announcement. It certainly generated an inordinate amount of buzz for its viewership, so I imagine that its sign-up numbers were pretty strong as well. In fact, I seem to remember that Twin Peaks also drew record sign-ups for Showtime. So maybe it paid for itself. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:893184434] in Is Peak TV... [t:76154926]...</cite> <quote><cite>SaveEstelle posted...</cite> <quote> It's why I wasn't really drinking the Kool-Aid on Star Trek: Discovery being particularly commercially successful when CBS was saying it drove subscriptions to the same ballpark. Where are the numbers, you know? Then I saw the actual numbers through insider stuff and they seemed... fine? It wasn't until Netflix's international Most Watched 2017 list started circulating and Discovery ranked in one of the lists that I was like, "alright, yeah, you've done alright here." </quote> Yeah, but what's more successful: ST:D or The Orville? Because Netflix's international viewership included, STD's expenses HAVE to dwarf Orville considerably. And at the same time, The Orville apparently pulled a better rating in the demo, and it remained on TV which will bolster FOX considerably given their lack of ratings in, well, anything. STD drew record sign-ups, but it only had competition from what? The Good Fight? A show that was primed at an audience less likely to sign-up for streaming services (because they're old)? <cite>SaveEstelle posted...</cite> <quote>How much was spent to get there, however? How much can continually be tossed into Star Trek: Discovery to keep that particular set of viewers comfortable?</quote> Has to be the big question now. <cite>SaveEstelle posted...</cite> <quote> The same applies to Twin Peaks. (I think. I don't know. I don't follow it. Is it supposed to be coming back? Is the jury still out? "Limited Series" is often a convenient way of covering up one's possible failures if a show doesn't hit a certain financial ceiling; I have no doubt they'll bring it back if it's doing well enough to justify the action.)</quote> It was supposed to be a limited series from its initial announcement. It certainly generated an inordinate amount of buzz for its viewership, so I imagine that its sign-up numbers were pretty strong as well. In fact, I seem to remember that Twin Peaks also drew record sign-ups for Showtime. So maybe it paid for itself. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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