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TopicYou know what really bothers me about pro-choice people?
ImTheMacheteGuy
03/22/18 5:32:32 PM
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HHH is the game posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
HHH is the game posted...
Ray-Ray posted...
it is pretty simple, a human takes refuge in your body

you should have choice if you wanna let them or not


Yes, exactly. I agree. And when you decide to have sex unprotected, and let the human in your body, then should it not be your responsibility to take care of it?


The thing is, you aren't letting it in. The brain is astronomically more evolved than any other organ or system in the human body, but it is not so evolved that will alone can override any other biological system. In certain cases, it actually can, such as when you're sleeping, to name an example. Will alone can not override conception when a person does not wish to procreate. If you could have unprotected sex and simply decide not to get pregnant and you wouldn't, that would be ideal, and if that was true for the human brain, anyone getting pregnant would be letting the human in as you put it. That is not the case though. If someone walks into your home and steals your stuff when you've left the door unlocked, sure, you left the door unlocked. What did you think was going to happen? However, the thief still broke in and committed a criminal act and is liable for the stolen property. You didn't let the thief in. Even if you had locked your door, they may have broken in anyway, which parallels conception scenarios such as failed birth control and rape.

If a person does not want a biological offspring inside of them, they should not have to carry it simply because they wanted to do something that had the potential to lead to its conception. If it's unwanted, it's not much different than a parasite. The "personal responsibility" argument is taken too far in the abortion debate.

If you want to make abortion illegal, you should also make it a crime for anyone who does not desire biological offspring to have sex. That's the only way that makes it fair. If I don't have the right to put my penis in a woman's vagina because I never want kids, I can't complain if I do and she gets pregnant. If I don't have the right to allow a penis into my vagina of i don't wish to bear a child, then I can't complain if I do and become pregnant. Question is... do you want to live in a world like that? Do you want those rights infringed upon? Even then, that scenario doesn't even factor in rape, incest, instances where the fetus has terminal defects, instances where the girl/woman's life is in danger if she is to give birth, or any other outlier circumstance.


You realize child support laws literally ALREADY work this way, right? The man is responsible because he had sex and led to the creation of the child.


The child in this scenario is not aborted though.
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