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Topic	You know what really bothers me about pro-choice people?
HHH is the game 03/24/18 1:28:50 PM #310:	Asherlee10 posted... Asherlee10 posted... Asherlee10 posted... @HHH is the game posted... So you don't care about social issues? You don't care about school shootings, or murder, or police violence, etc, because it doesn't personally involve you? This is a great example of a false equivalency. Abortion != social issues, school shootings, murder, police violence, 'etc.' For example, a school shooting is in no way related to a woman terminating an unwanted pregnancy. I'm not even sure why you'd take this in that direction. HHH is the game posted... Im sorry I don't subscribe to the idea that we should only be concerned with ourselves, in my opinion you need to protect the rights of others. And yes, I know what you'll say, but again, I protect the right of the baby over the right of the mother, because the mother chose to have sex, and the baby did not get a say. Just like how the father has to pay child support because he chose to have sex, and the baby did not get a say. Nor am I suggesting that we should only be concerned with ourselves. I actually think you might be 'strawmanning' here. That is not my argument and you are aware of that. You are directly infringing on the right of the mother, who is a person and holds personhood, for a fetus that does not have personhood. That is not how rights work. Also, TC, why do you keep ignoring this? I literally responded to this in the next post. Most of my posts have answered this. A. Its only a false equivalency if you say a fetus has no personhood. If a fetus is treated similar to an infant, then it is not a false equivalency at all. A school shooting involves the killing of children. Is an abortion a killing? Is a fetus a child? Depends on where you think life begins, a complicated question. If you draw that line early there is no false equivalency. Agreed? Well, then... B. Your argument is completely based on the fact that a fetus holds no personhood. That is the whole crux of my own argument. Whether a fetus should hold personhood is a complicated question. And that is why its also not a false equivalency to bring up slavery. Okay...maybe its not an equivalency. But its a similar situation. The stripping of personhood of a group because its a lot easier for the people stripping them to believe they are not fully human --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:898408602] in You know w... [t:76441844]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@HHH is the game posted...</cite> <quote>So you don't care about social issues? You don't care about school shootings, or murder, or police violence, etc, because it doesn't personally involve you?</quote> This is a great example of a false equivalency. Abortion != social issues, school shootings, murder, police violence, 'etc.' For example, a school shooting is in no way related to a woman terminating an unwanted pregnancy. I'm not even sure why you'd take this in that direction. <cite>HHH is the game posted...</cite> <quote>Im sorry I don't subscribe to the idea that we should only be concerned with ourselves, in my opinion you need to protect the rights of others. And yes, I know what you'll say, but again, I protect the right of the baby over the right of the mother, because the mother chose to have sex, and the baby did not get a say. Just like how the father has to pay child support because he chose to have sex, and the baby did not get a say.</quote> Nor am I suggesting that we should only be concerned with ourselves. I actually think you might be 'strawmanning' here. That is not my argument and you are aware of that. You are directly infringing on the right of the mother, who is a person and holds personhood, for a fetus that does not have personhood. That is not how rights work.</quote></quote> Also, TC, why do you keep ignoring this?</quote> I literally responded to this in the next post. Most of my posts have answered this. A. Its only a false equivalency if you say a fetus has no personhood. If a fetus is treated similar to an infant, then it is not a false equivalency at all. A school shooting involves the killing of children. Is an abortion a killing? Is a fetus a child? Depends on where you think life begins, a complicated question. If you draw that line early there is no false equivalency. Agreed? Well, then... B. Your argument is completely based on the fact that a fetus holds no personhood. That is the whole crux of my own argument. Whether a fetus should hold personhood is a complicated question. And that is why its also not a false equivalency to bring up slavery. Okay...maybe its not an equivalency. But its a similar situation. The stripping of personhood of a group because its a lot easier for the people stripping them to believe they are not fully human --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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