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SmartMuffin posted...

To an extent this is true, but you are vastly underestimating the size of the ingroup. For starters, it automatically includes all veterans, a very large number of which are gun owners. And it could reasonably be extended to include all gun owners, period, especially in the type of culture war type scenario we are talking about where gun owners are being systematically targetted on a national scale. The military is pro Second Amendment leaning in general, but there is a substantial subculture within it that is pro gun to a fanatical degree, like those groups mentioned earlier that make the NRA look like posers.

Have you been in the military? I have, and I'm telling you, no it doesn't. "Veterans" are not ingroup when active duty are being attacked. Civilian red-tribe is not ingroup if they are the ones shooting at active duty.

And I was just a desk clerk. Actual combat guys are even more insular than that.

I am a veteran myself, and am currently friends/associates with dozens of veterans and active servicemembers. I just don't see this the same way as you based on my experience.
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