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Topic	A Geektivus For The Rest Of Us
ParanoidObsessive 04/06/18 7:01:57 PM #379:	Zeus posted... Kek. The virtue-signaling was pretty strong in it. And, from what I remember of the books, some of the overtones and cultural usage was cringe-worthy. The core rulebooks - especially the 1st edition books - were just dripping with it. Whether it was the blatant hippie pacifist Children of Gaia, the man-hating feminist Black Furies, the "Oh-So-Pure" Native Americans (and the explicit backstory where Europeans literally ruin everything), there was a lot of cringey bullshit. Then you factor in the cultural stereotypes of the Fianna, the Get, and the Stargazers, and more than half your Tribes are basically crap. Nor might it have been entirely coincidental that the two Tribes most identified with European values and ideals were, respectively, a bunch of inbred lunatics and manipulative fucks that literally no one ever trusts. But hey, you can always be a Glass Walker and have the entire rest of the Garou Nation hate and shit on you (and you're objectively and explicitly a traitor to Gaia and being controlled by a malevolent force of Stasis in the official metaplot). Or you can be a homeless person and live in a cardboard box as a Bone Gnawer. Wee! Are we having fun yet, kids? I'm not entirely sure whether I consider the Revised edition of the game (aka 3e) to be better or worse in that respect, because while they actually toned down a lot of the Native American/Celtic/hippie fellating in the newer content, they also sterilized a lot of other things (like anything Nazi-related in the Get of Fenris, anything IRA-related in the Fianna, kicking the Stargazers out of the Garou Nation entirely so people wouldn't complain about Shaolin Monk werewolves being Asian stereotypes, etc) for fear of offending delicate snowflakes. Though at least part of their later paranoid stance about not offending people (they did it in the nWoD as well, which is part of why nWoD Mage sucks so very, very hard) likely stemmed from them being way too gunshy after the Gypsy clusterfuck, which was entirely their fault. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:899183230] in A Geektivu... [t:76102111]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Kek. The virtue-signaling was pretty strong in it. And, from what I remember of the books, some of the overtones and cultural usage was cringe-worthy.</quote> The core rulebooks - especially the 1st edition books - were just dripping with it. Whether it was the blatant hippie pacifist Children of Gaia, the man-hating feminist Black Furies, the "Oh-So-Pure" Native Americans (and the explicit backstory where Europeans literally ruin everything), there was a lot of cringey bullshit. Then you factor in the cultural stereotypes of the Fianna, the Get, and the Stargazers, and more than half your Tribes are basically crap. Nor might it have been entirely coincidental that the two Tribes most identified with European values and ideals were, respectively, a bunch of inbred lunatics and manipulative fucks that literally no one ever trusts. But hey, you can always be a Glass Walker and have the entire rest of the Garou Nation hate and shit on you (and you're objectively and explicitly a traitor to Gaia and being controlled by a malevolent force of Stasis in the official metaplot). Or you can be a homeless person and live in a cardboard box as a Bone Gnawer. Wee! Are we having fun yet, kids? I'm not entirely sure whether I consider the Revised edition of the game (aka 3e) to be better or worse in that respect, because while they actually toned down a lot of the Native American/Celtic/hippie fellating in the newer content, they also sterilized a lot of other things (like anything Nazi-related in the Get of Fenris, anything IRA-related in the Fianna, kicking the Stargazers out of the Garou Nation entirely so people wouldn't complain about Shaolin Monk werewolves being Asian stereotypes, etc) for fear of offending delicate snowflakes. Though at least part of their later paranoid stance about not offending people (they did it in the nWoD as well, which is part of why nWoD Mage sucks so very, very hard) likely stemmed from them being way too gunshy after the Gypsy clusterfuck, which was entirely their fault. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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