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Topic	A Geektivus For The Rest Of Us
ParanoidObsessive 04/06/18 7:44:55 PM #382:	Zeus posted... He clearly uses humor to cope, whether he's nervous, afraid, etc. You make him sound a lot more happy-go-lucky than he actually is. Peter really isn't that bad. Apart from his 1960s nebbish years, he's always been far more upbeat than Bruce is. Yes, the wisecracking as Spider-Man IS an act to some degree, but he's also far more capable of having genuine human interactions, friendships, and relationships than Bruce is. He's also far more likely to try and be comforting and inspiring to people who seem to be in a worse place than he is, whereas a lot of Bruce's "comforting" anyone who isn't part of the "Bat-family" tends to come across as either feeling awkward, or being entirely tactical (ie, not cheering someone up because you feel bad that they're sad, but doing it because you need them to be at 100% in the next fight). Peter's darkest moments always stem more from the circumstances he's faced with. When he's not sure he can afford to keep his Aunt from getting evicted, or when she's got health issues, or when the Avengers go on cosmic universe-breaking adventures and he's like "Shit, guys, all I can really do is jump around and punch really hard." Deep down, he wants to be an optimist. He wants to trust people. He wants to be an idealist, and generally assume the future is going to be better. And he genuinely tends to LIKE people. Bruce, on the other hand, is usually portrayed as being bleak as fuck. He's one of the most cynical, least-trusting, pessimistic heroes in the entire DC universe (and more so than most Marvel heroes as well, in spite of them coming from a much more cynical universe in general). Of the few people he's ever "let in" to form genuine emotional ties with, most are either tied directly to his own broken nature (Alfred) or are broken people themselves (Dick). It's part of why most of his romantic relationships either fail spectacularly, or are themselves pretty fucked up from word one (coughCatwomancough). (And yes, I'll give you the Catwoman/Black Cat similarities as another pro-Spider-Man argument for free. Though it's telling that Catwoman is often portrayed as the ONE TRUE PAIRING for Batman, while Black Cat is usually more of an off-handed also-ran for Spider-Man.) --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:899185432] in A Geektivu... [t:76102111]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>He clearly uses humor to cope, whether he's nervous, afraid, etc. You make him sound a lot more happy-go-lucky than he actually is.</quote> Peter really isn't that bad. Apart from his 1960s nebbish years, he's always been far more upbeat than Bruce is. Yes, the wisecracking as Spider-Man IS an act to some degree, but he's also far more capable of having genuine human interactions, friendships, and relationships than Bruce is. He's also far more likely to try and be comforting and inspiring to people who seem to be in a worse place than he is, whereas a lot of Bruce's "comforting" anyone who isn't part of the "Bat-family" tends to come across as either feeling awkward, or being entirely tactical (ie, not cheering someone up because you feel bad that they're sad, but doing it because you need them to be at 100% in the next fight). Peter's darkest moments always stem more from the circumstances he's faced with. When he's not sure he can afford to keep his Aunt from getting evicted, or when she's got health issues, or when the Avengers go on cosmic universe-breaking adventures and he's like "Shit, guys, all I can really do is jump around and punch really hard." Deep down, he wants to be an optimist. He wants to trust people. He wants to be an idealist, and generally assume the future is going to be better. And he genuinely tends to LIKE people. Bruce, on the other hand, is usually portrayed as being bleak as fuck. He's one of the most cynical, least-trusting, pessimistic heroes in the entire DC universe (and more so than most Marvel heroes as well, in spite of them coming from a much more cynical universe in general). Of the few people he's ever "let in" to form genuine emotional ties with, most are either tied directly to his own broken nature (Alfred) or are broken people themselves (Dick). It's part of why most of his romantic relationships either fail spectacularly, or are themselves pretty fucked up from word one (coughCatwomancough). (And yes, I'll give you the Catwoman/Black Cat similarities as another pro-Spider-Man argument for free. Though it's telling that Catwoman is often portrayed as the ONE TRUE PAIRING for Batman, while Black Cat is usually more of an off-handed also-ran for Spider-Man.) --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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