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Topic	A Geektivus For The Rest Of Us
Entity13 04/13/18 8:34:12 AM #402:	Zeus posted... The one thing I don't get is ranking Defenders that high. In large part it's because, for the flaws and short length, I found more enjoyment in Defenders than the shows I listed afterward. Zeus posted... JJ1 kinda turned me off because its singular focus forced a repeated "We got him... no, we didn't get him" storyline. The show only had one real antagonist which meant repeated encounters which failed for one reason or another, dragging things out. Every other show had supporting antagonists to pad things out. Sure, I get that, and for that reason the show might not appeal to enough people. For me, the delivery of those parts sold the whole. It didn't feel quite so much as though people were bitch-slapped in the face for trying to improve matters, so much as characters on multiple sides trying to outsmart one another and then succeeding or failing at various degrees. It was imperfect, but it worked, at least for me. Zeus posted... Yeah, that was my problem as well. The two storylines diverged far too heavily and the semi-connection at the end ~~Frank Castle showing up to neutralize some of the Hand~~ was a bit forced. Agreed. That was such a shoehorned appearance that tried to tie the two stories together, but might have highlighted the issue more by being there. Zeus posted... Watching them out of order would probably drive me a little crazy, but Luke Cage is pretty well-established in JJ1 so that one isn't quite as important. I'm already crazy, so this actually brought me a small sense of sanity. o_O And yes, Luke was introduced and established in JJ1. That, if anything, gave LC less of an excuse to be the way it was for the first few episodes. The first act of a story is supposed to be a call to action, and the first one to two episodes (tops) are supposed to hook the crowd into seeing what the character is about. Going by the first two HOUR-LONG episodes of LC, someone who didn't watch JJ1 for whatever reason would just see a big guy just trying to make due on rent with two underpaying jobs while shit went sideways around him and he constantly avoided it. People watching LC probably want a superhero (sort of) show. That all adds up to a failed opener. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:899578913] in A Geektivu... [t:76102111]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The one thing I don't get is ranking Defenders that high.</quote> In large part it's because, for the flaws and short length, I found more enjoyment in Defenders than the shows I listed afterward. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>JJ1 kinda turned me off because its singular focus forced a repeated "We got him... no, we didn't get him" storyline. The show only had one real antagonist which meant repeated encounters which failed for one reason or another, dragging things out. Every other show had supporting antagonists to pad things out.</quote> Sure, I get that, and for that reason the show might not appeal to enough people. For me, the delivery of those parts sold the whole. It didn't feel quite so much as though people were bitch-slapped in the face for trying to improve matters, so much as characters on multiple sides trying to outsmart one another and then succeeding or failing at various degrees. It was imperfect, but it worked, at least for me. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that was my problem as well. The two storylines diverged far too heavily and the semi-connection at the end Frank Castle showing up to neutralize some of the Hand was a bit forced.</quote> Agreed. That was such a shoehorned appearance that tried to tie the two stories together, but might have highlighted the issue more by being there. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Watching them out of order would probably drive me a little crazy, but Luke Cage is pretty well-established in JJ1 so that one isn't quite as important.</quote> I'm already crazy, so this actually brought me a small sense of sanity. o_O And yes, Luke was introduced and established in JJ1. That, if anything, gave LC less of an excuse to be the way it was for the first few episodes. The first act of a story is supposed to be a call to action, and the first one to two episodes (tops) are supposed to hook the crowd into seeing what the character is about. Going by the first two HOUR-LONG episodes of LC, someone who didn't watch JJ1 for whatever reason would just see a big guy just trying to make due on rent with two underpaying jobs while shit went sideways around him and he constantly avoided it. People watching LC probably want a superhero (sort of) show. That all adds up to a failed opener. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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