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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik posted...

So you don't.

I work with 100 kids a day, for an average of 10 hours. Behavior management is a huge part of my job.

If you have an argument to make, say it. Otherwise, sit down.

When someone asks you a question and you do not answer it, that is your decision. I asked "If you had kids". It is yes or no. The answer is no, apparently.

Yes, the kids I am referring to that are mostly going to be delinquent at the ages I am talking about are the kind of kids that are NOT going to just hand their phone over because their parent told them to or give a fuck if their parents stop paying the bill. They just do not give a fuck. The students you are talking about, that follow the rules, are not the ones that for the most part are going to fall into the category I am talking about.

Sure, taking the phones of a 12 year old girl who always follows the rules mostly is going to matter a lot them, especially the social ones who go to school primarily to see their friends and socialize.

It is not going to work to the rebel against authority, I do not give a fuck type. It is questionable whether even the penalties I am suggesting would even work either, but it does take the responsibility to the party at fault.

TLDR: Any party that would be affected by taking their phone, would be similarly impacted by personal accruement of penalties or driving privilege suspensions against them. Any party that wouldn't be affected by taking their phone, would questionably be affected by personal acrruement of consequences, but it would alleviate the parent from said consequences that they can be rendered helpless to control and shift them to the responsible party.

The point is, which who didn't know when I was asked a question it was just going to be the same group as always trying to pick a part out to argue against until blue in the face, that at a certain age, we need to shift that responsibility.

Say a kid keeps skipping. Parent says go to school. They say fuck off. Parent says I will take your phone. Kid says I don't give a fuck. You take phone (assuming you can even get it -turn off it's service otherwise). Take electronics. Etc. Kid still won't go to school. At this point you are rendered helpless. You cannot physically force your child to go to school. Maybe in the old days you could grab your kid by the hair. Toss him in the car. Toss him out at the school. And he is there and embarrassed in front of the school. However, that definitely is not going to fly in this day and age.

Thus, there is a situation in which you are rendered helpless and why should said parent be held responsible for that?

Luckily, the ages I am talking about where the responsibility would be transferred over to the student is also the ages where I think a student can legally drop out of school (I think).
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