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Yeah, I enjoyed that map concept. I love how he's a mage and it's a desert, so of course he can outmaneuver most of your units.

Echoes maps suffer from having a lot of empty space and it's obvious little thought was given to unit placement. It was an enjoyable enough romp and I liked the different take on various mechanics (magic costing HP is super-cool and reins in an otherwise overpowered skillset in an interesting way) but I don't have much desire to replay it compared to like every other FE, even ones I consider worse than it.

Punnyz posted...

what do yall think of Fates?

Outstanding game (mostly Conquest, but Birthright is fine too; it just has notably worse map design) with the best gameplay in the series. Conquest is the game to play if you're looking for a tough challenge which is also extremely fair. (And if you find it too tough you can adjust the difficulty downwards midplaythrough). Every map is very obviously hand-crafted with a lot of love and most of them are really memorable. Good characters too. Plot and setting is weak but I feel that way about the rest of the non-Tellius series too so eh.

It's very controversial though, even moreso than Awakening (which is impressive). Both games brought in lots of new fans but do some things differently with respect to characters and tone (there are more goofy joke characters). Fates in particular also brings back the second-generation mechanic but gives it the goofiest explanation imaginable (it's obvious that it wasn't "supposed" to be in the game but IntSys was terrified that not having it would lead to a drop in sales). Regardless, there's a definite friction in the fanbase between the old and new fans over the two games, which is unfortunate IMO because I think both the older and newer FE games do great things which makes them 100% worth playing.
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