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TopicWhat if Hilary ran again but with Bernie as her VP. Can they beat Trump in 2020?
hollow_shrine
07/19/18 3:18:26 PM
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SSJosHBK_Blue posted...
its literally just preference. Or do you forget people felt the same way about Obama, for instance, that you feel about Trump today?

It's not. Some of those opinions about Obama were totally and demonstrably valid. Deportations objectively went up during the Obama administration. Many campaign promises were never filled. For all his erudite speeches, he had no idea how to brand his policies, and he wasted years bargaining with a Congress acting purely in bad faith. I don't necessarily think he deserved that Nobel Peace prize. There's volumes of valid criticism to be directed at Obama.

But you know what's not going to be in those volumes? Right wing assertions that Obama's secrets life as a Muslim socialist autocrat, who wasn't even actually American undermined his authority to serve as president and that his presence in the oval office was the result of some kind of coup. I don't talk a lot about the Russia investigation because it's ongoing and I have little reason to speculate when there's an iceberg of information I don't have. But it does provide a great contrast alongside some of the Obama conspiracy theories between what constitutes potentially valid opinions and what constitutes quackery.

These equivalences are fallacious.
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