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TopicWhat if Hilary ran again but with Bernie as her VP. Can they beat Trump in 2020?
SSJosHBK_Blue
07/19/18 6:07:18 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
SSJosHBK_Blue posted...
What about superdelegates saying they were gonna put their points towards hillary regardless of how the vote turns out before primaries? That suggests they were bought or tainted. That shows the colors of the DNC. There is a reason Debbie got fired and ended up on the Hillary campaign after the primaries.

1. Superdelegates have the right to vote for whoever they want. The Democratic Party gives them that privilege in exchange for all the work they do to support the party.

2. Hillary had been their favorite pick to succeed Obama ever since he got elected. And even without their votes she still won and surpassed the nomination. You people act as though nobody actually voted for her, as if all those millions of people didnt actually support her.


Exactly. So why should i work with a party that actively disenfranchises voters? When superdelegates say they are gonna go hillary even if we go Sanders then its clear they arent caring about peoples interests.

hollow_shrine posted...
SSJosHBK_Blue posted...
i preferred Sanders over Clinton and a rebel vote is an acceptable protest for a convention that disenfranchises its voters and actively works unbiased such as scheduling debates during game of thrones and sunday night football

Sure, if you prioritize your protest over the likely, and deeply harmful, policy decisions of your opponents.

But if you rely on something like the ACA or some of your family is undocumented and looking for clear path to citizenship to prevent future deportation, you don't really have the luxury of that protest vote do you. And even if those policies didn't immediately effect you, I'll bet you personally know someone(s) who it would.

So, it's great that some people chose 'perfectly acceptable protest,' but contrasted with the impacts of letting the GOP dismantle the ACA, pass a ridiculous tax bill, steal at least one if not two (or even three) supreme court seats, and increase restrictions on immigration hitting both refugees and asylum seekers, those prioritizes seem more than a little divorced from material reality.

And two years in, I'm hoping that we've learned well enough to avoid repeating 2016's catastrophe.


We've already covered that all that is subjective. The justices, refugee issue, aca issue, etc is the definition of subjective.
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