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Topic	So what if Trump actually wins again in 2020?
darkknight109 09/11/18 5:48:15 AM #56:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Collectivism isn't a left/right issue. Debatable - collectivism, like most left-wing governance structures, prioritizes the needs of the group over the needs of the individual, while right-wing governance favours a much more individualistic model. Regardless, collectivism does breed left-wing social policies, which you yourself noted when you pointed out Japan's policies regarding health care and education. Kyuubi4269 posted... Sounds like Japan to me. Sounds like you're relying on a definition of left-wing and right-wing that dates back to a time when right-wingers were monarchists and left-wingers were republicans. Kyuubi4269 posted... It's an oligarchy securing stability in an aggressive capitalist system, this allows low-risk people to invest more aggressively in a competitive global market with high risk types. Japan has never been "aggressively capitalist" and the allies attempts to make it so in the post-WW2 world by dismantling the zaibatsu were exactly what created the keiretsu in the first place. Zeus posted... Otherwise, just like the Democrats, they believed that the candidate had dark intentions for the American people rather than just wanting different politics. Except the Democrats were actually fleeing (or threatening to) because they wanted more leftist politics. That was the entire point. This is, again, why Republicans of the same hysterical bent tend to talk more about seceding (either individually or as a state) rather than moving somewhere, because there's nowhere for them to move to. I'll note, at this juncture, you haven't bothered to name one of these so-called "more conservative" developed nations you believe exist. Zeus posted... Well, those are some Bold claimS. I'm curious where you got that information from. Care to provide some statistics? I don't have anything in one concrete, easy to reference sheet. But let's grab a few examples, shall we? -One of just eight developed countries where executions are still carried out (and the only one not in the Middle East or East Asia). -One of the lowest rates of union memberships amongst developed countries -The only developed country with no mandatory minimum annual paid leave -Has one of the weakest social security nets of all developed countries -Has one of the highest rates of religious belief (with strong trends towards social conservatism in that demographic) in the developed world -Was previously one of the only - or, depending on the qualifications, THE only - country in the developed world without nationalized health care. May reclaim that status shortly, depending on what happens with the ACA. -The only developed country that has rejected the Paris Climate Agreement Just a random smattering off the top of my head. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908520466] in So what if... [t:76988102]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Collectivism isn't a left/right issue. </quote> Debatable - collectivism, like most left-wing governance structures, prioritizes the needs of the group over the needs of the individual, while right-wing governance favours a much more individualistic model. Regardless, collectivism does breed left-wing social policies, which you yourself noted when you pointed out Japan's policies regarding health care and education. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like Japan to me.</quote> Sounds like you're relying on a definition of left-wing and right-wing that dates back to a time when right-wingers were monarchists and left-wingers were republicans. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's an oligarchy securing stability in an aggressive capitalist system, this allows low-risk people to invest more aggressively in a competitive global market with high risk types.</quote> Japan has never been "aggressively capitalist" and the allies attempts to make it so in the post-WW2 world by dismantling the zaibatsu were exactly what created the keiretsu in the first place. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Otherwise, just like the Democrats, they believed that the candidate had dark intentions for the American people rather than just wanting different politics. </quote> Except the Democrats were actually fleeing (or threatening to) because they wanted more leftist politics. That was the entire point. This is, again, why Republicans of the same hysterical bent tend to talk more about seceding (either individually or as a state) rather than moving somewhere, because there's nowhere for them to move to. I'll note, at this juncture, you haven't bothered to name one of these so-called "more conservative" developed nations you believe exist. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, those are some Bold claimS. I'm curious where you got that information from. Care to provide some statistics?</quote> I don't have anything in one concrete, easy to reference sheet. But let's grab a few examples, shall we? -One of just eight developed countries where executions are still carried out (and the only one not in the Middle East or East Asia). -One of the lowest rates of union memberships amongst developed countries -The only developed country with no mandatory minimum annual paid leave -Has one of the weakest social security nets of all developed countries -Has one of the highest rates of religious belief (with strong trends towards social conservatism in that demographic) in the developed world -Was previously one of the only - or, depending on the qualifications, THE only - country in the developed world without nationalized health care. May reclaim that status shortly, depending on what happens with the ACA. -The only developed country that has rejected the Paris Climate Agreement Just a random smattering off the top of my head. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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