| Topic List | Page List: 1 |
|---|---|
| Topic | Man that killed a toddler gets brutally beaten in prison |
| darkknight109 09/11/18 4:13:04 PM #85: | Rasmoh posted... A judicially-administered corporal punishment system would come into place long beforehand because it's a much more realistic precedent. A judicially-administered corporal punishment system *did* come into place long beforehand - as I already stated, it was discarded decades ago as being cruel and ineffective. It's great for salving our lizard-brain thirst for revenge (not so much for the people who have to administer it, though - one of the big drivers behind its abandonment was that guards hated meting it out) and pretty much nothing else. Rasmoh posted... That's an interesting assertion because it's entirely unverifiable. What people say and how they truly feel are so frequently differing. Saying "Sure, people *say* they think this thing, but who knows if that's what they're *actually* thinking. You can't prove it, after all," isn't the most ridiculous straw-grasping I've ever heard in my life, but it's probably in the Top 5. Rasmoh posted... This scenario doesn't work. In my ideal world, there aren't bunches of child murderers because they've all been executed because there's no reason to keep them around. We're not talking about your "ideal world", which, honestly, sounds like a pretty Orwellian place. Rasmoh posted... My mindset removes the opportunity for this felony to occur. Your mindset is not realities. Leave your fantasies for the bedroom and stick to real life. Rasmoh posted... Everything an illegal immigrant does harms innocent people in some way. I mean, if you want to go to ridiculous extremes, everything everybody does harms innocent people in some way. I went to work today; that means someone else who could use my job isn't going to be able to do it because I'm busy taking up space. I also just bought a video game instead of giving that money to the poor - worse, many of the rare earth metals that were used to manufacture that game probably came from mines with abhorrent conditions in the third world. So yeah, we're all evil bastards. That said, construing something in such an over-the-top fashion is plainly ridiculous, so let's steer the discussion back onto something that is at least somewhat rational, shall we? Rasmoh posted... I'm also still surprised you still shit out that sad excuse for a statistic because you know just how much that statistic is manipulated. "Manipulated", in this case, meaning 100% true. And it's not difficult to see why - the vast majority of illegal immigrants aren't the stereotypical gangers and drug dealers, they're people trying to make a better life for themselves (and immigrants doing that has been a thing for several hundred years now - you guys even put up a statue in New York with a little poem about it). To that end, crime is even less of a winner for immigrants than most people, because they have the additional threat of deportation hanging over their heads if they winding up running afoul of the law. This matter has been studied extensively and first generation immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate pretty much across the board (to the point where an influx in immigrants into communities actually caused crime rates to drop). The effect lasts for ~2-3 generations, after which point there is no statistical difference. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard! |
| Topic List | Page List: 1 |